Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: DanielSan on 6 Aug 2008 06:33 rbwinn wrote: > On Aug 5, 7:47�pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Aug 5, 6:45 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Aug 4, 10:01 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Aug 4, 3:54 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:147d2d46-ff33-4aac-b29a-7e24af243840(a)k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for >>>>>>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto >>>>>>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you. >>>>>>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of >>>>>>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now >>>>>>>>>>>>> caught. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great >>>>>>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so >>>>>>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples >>>>>>>>>>>>> durst >>>>>>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish >>>>>>>>>>>>> likewise. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his >>>>>>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead. >>>>>>>>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide quoted >>>>>>>>>>>> text - >>>>>>>>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court. >>>>>>>>>> For what kinds of cases? >>>>>>>>> For all kinds of cases. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as >>>>>>>>> evidence in the monkey trial. >>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>> All kinds if cases? >>>>>>>> You mean, "one type of case"? >>>>>>> No, a lawyer can attempt to introduce any physical object as evidence >>>>>>> in a court case. >>>>>> But, will it be ACCEPTED as evidence? >>>>>> You keep trying these clever games with your debating tactics. Clever, >>>>>> to you. Lame and flimsy to everyone else. >>>>> Not today. A judge today in the United States will not even allow the >>>>> Constitution of the United States to be entered as evidence. >>>> Want me to demolish that claim, too? >>> Go ahead and try. �Show where one of these police state judges has >>> allowed the Constitution in police state court. >> So glad for your permission. >> >> United States v. Donald Fell >> Case summary: Is the Federal Death Penalty Act of 1994 unconstitutional >> as per the 8th Amendment?http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/crim/usfell92402opn.pdf >> > This defendant was obviously given a trial by jury. This case does > not apply. This case most certainly applies. You asked for a case wherein the Constitution was used as evidence. The Constitution was used as evidence in this case. -- **************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *--------------------------------------------------* * Can God create a Thai dish so spicy that even He * * can't eat it? * ****************************************************
From: DanielSan on 6 Aug 2008 06:33 rbwinn wrote: > On Aug 5, 7:47�pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Aug 5, 6:50 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Aug 4, 10:10 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Aug 4, 8:35 pm, hhyaps...(a)gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>> On Aug 4, 8:02 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for >>>>>>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto >>>>>>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you. >>>>>>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of >>>>>>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now >>>>>>>>>>>>> caught. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great >>>>>>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so >>>>>>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples durst >>>>>>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish >>>>>>>>>>>>> likewise. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his >>>>>>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead. >>>>>>>>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court. >>>>>>>>>> For what kinds of cases? >>>>>>>>> For any kind of case. A lawyer can request that a Bible be entered as >>>>>>>>> evidence in any court case. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as >>>>>>>>> evidence in the famous "monkey trial". >>>>>>>>> Riobert B. Winn >>>>>>>> A judge must be mad or loony if he were to allow for bible as >>>>>>>> evidence. >>>>>>>> You mean that ancient time recording can be the evidence for modern >>>>>>>> time crime or cases? >>>>>>>> This would also mean America is declining, at a rate faster than I >>>>>>>> thought.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>> Well, it happened in 1934, or whenever it was. So we have that >>>>>>> precedent in American jurisprudence. >>>>>> In only one type of trial, if it happened at all. Your credibility is >>>>>> nil at this point. >>>>> Well, judges of today are very careful to make certain that only >>>>> atheism is allowed in courtrooms. >>>> You mean, they'll only allow secular evidence? >>>>> That does not mean that the Bible >>>>> is not evidence. No matter how hard atheists try, they are unable to >>>>> make the Bible disappear. That is why it is evidence. >>>> Atheists are not trying to make the Bible disappear. >>>> It also isn't evidence, no matter hard you try to make it evidence. >>>> -- >>> So you are saying that the Bible is like Hezekiah's tunnel, it does >>> not exist. >> Um. �No. > If the Bible exists, then it is evidence. So does it exist or not? It exists, but is not evidence. -- **************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *--------------------------------------------------* * Can God create a Thai dish so spicy that even He * * can't eat it? * ****************************************************
From: DanielSan on 6 Aug 2008 06:37 Steve O wrote: > > > "DanielSan" <danielsan(a)speakeasy.net> wrote in message > news:E8adnZh0I57JjATVnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net... >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Aug 5, 1:38�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >>>> >>>> news:b869657a-8ad3-4d4d-9f10-5440569a3345(a)34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Aug 4, 10:01 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Aug 4, 3:54 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:147d2d46-ff33-4aac-b29a-7e24af243840(a)k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn >>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your >>>>>>>>>>>>>> claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first >>>>>>>>>>>>> day of >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were >>>>>>>>>>>>> assembled >>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith >>>>>>>>>>>>> unto >>>>>>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you. >>>>>>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw >>>>>>>>>>>>> a fire >>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now >>>>>>>>>>>>> caught. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great >>>>>>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there >>>>>>>>>>>>> were so >>>>>>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> disciples >>>>>>>>>>>>> durst >>>>>>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and >>>>>>>>>>>>> fish >>>>>>>>>>>>> likewise. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his >>>>>>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead. >>>>>>>>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide >>>>>>>>>>>> quoted >>>>>>>>>>>> text - >>>>>>>>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court. >>>>>>>>>> For what kinds of cases? >>>>>>>>> For all kinds of cases. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as >>>>>>>>> evidence in the monkey trial. >>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>> All kinds if cases? >>>>>>>> You mean, "one type of case"? >>>>>>> No, a lawyer can attempt to introduce any physical object as >>>>>>> evidence >>>>>>> in a court case. >>>>>> But, will it be ACCEPTED as evidence? >>>>>> You keep trying these clever games with your debating tactics. >>>>>> Clever, >>>>>> to you. Lame and flimsy to everyone else. >>>>> Not today. �A judge today in the United States will not even allow the >>>>> Constitution of the United States to be entered as evidence. >>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>> It depends on what you are trying to prove. >>>> Why were you trying to introduce the Constitution as evidence, and >>>> how could >>>> it prove or disprove anything in relation to your particular >>>> circumstabces? >>>> >>>> -- >>> The sixth amendment to the Constitution says that the defendant has >>> the right to trial by jury in "all criminal prosecutions". The judge >>> in my case had just denied my right to trial by jury. >> >> Then you can appeal. >> > > Not on those grounds he can't. > ;-) > > The only grounds for appeal he has would be to provide evidence that the > judgment of the three doctors who declared him insane was mistaken and > incorrect. > Not much chance of that, is there? > He is acting like he's the only sane one in a sea of insane people. :-) -- **************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *--------------------------------------------------* * Can God create a Thai dish so spicy that even He * * can't eat it? * ****************************************************
From: mizlee on 6 Aug 2008 07:18 On Aug 6, 6:37�am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > Steve O wrote: > > > "DanielSan" <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote in message > >news:E8adnZh0I57JjATVnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net... > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Aug 5, 1:38 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > >>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > >>>>news:b869657a-8ad3-4d4d-9f10-5440569a3345(a)34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com.... > > >>>>> On Aug 4, 10:01 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>> On Aug 4, 3:54 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>news:147d2d46-ff33-4aac-b29a-7e24af243840(a)k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn > >>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote > >>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> claim. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first > >>>>>>>>>>>>> day of > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were > >>>>>>>>>>>>> assembled > >>>>>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith > >>>>>>>>>>>>> unto > >>>>>>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw > >>>>>>>>>>>>> a fire > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now > >>>>>>>>>>>>> caught. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great > >>>>>>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there > >>>>>>>>>>>>> were so > >>>>>>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> disciples > >>>>>>>>>>>>> durst > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and > >>>>>>>>>>>>> fish > >>>>>>>>>>>>> likewise. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his > >>>>>>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead. > >>>>>>>>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide > >>>>>>>>>>>> quoted > >>>>>>>>>>>> text - > >>>>>>>>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court. > >>>>>>>>>> For what kinds of cases? > >>>>>>>>> For all kinds of cases. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as > >>>>>>>>> evidence in the monkey trial. > >>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>> All kinds if cases? > >>>>>>>> You mean, "one type of case"? > >>>>>>> No, a lawyer can attempt to introduce any physical object as > >>>>>>> evidence > >>>>>>> in a court case. > >>>>>> But, will it be ACCEPTED as evidence? > >>>>>> You keep trying these clever games with your debating tactics. > >>>>>> Clever, > >>>>>> to you. Lame and flimsy to everyone else. > >>>>> Not today. A judge today in the United States will not even allow the > >>>>> Constitution of the United States to be entered as evidence. > >>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>> It depends on what you are trying to prove. > >>>> Why were you trying to introduce the Constitution as evidence, and > >>>> how could > >>>> it prove or disprove anything in relation to your particular > >>>> circumstabces? > > >>>> -- > >>> The sixth amendment to the Constitution says that the defendant has > >>> the right to trial by jury in "all criminal prosecutions". � The judge > >>> in my case had just denied my right to trial by jury. > > >> Then you can appeal. > > > Not on those grounds he can't. > > ;-) > > > The only grounds for appeal he has would be to provide evidence that the > > judgment of the three doctors who declared him insane was mistaken and > > incorrect. > > Not much chance of that, is there? > > He is acting like he's the only sane one in a sea of insane people. �:-) > > -- > **************************************************** > * � � � � �DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 � � � � �* > *--------------------------------------------------* > * Can God create a Thai dish so spicy that even He * > * can't eat it? � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � �* > ****************************************************- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - It's been a couple weeks since I even looked at this thread, so I decided to check in. rbwinn is still drooling, and several of you are still trying to engage him. It's like trying to deal with an Alzheimer's patient; they have their own reality, and NOTHING you can do can get through to them - ever. Your excuse that onlookers might become more knowledgeable by seeing what nutters are really like long ago reached the point of diminishing returns. Are you so locked into this ridiculous dance you simply cannot stop? Do you really think the looney will "win" if he has the last word? rbwinn is best left to babble on his own - please trust me on this.
From: DanielSan on 6 Aug 2008 07:23
mizlee wrote: > On Aug 6, 6:37�am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> Steve O wrote: >> >>> "DanielSan" <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote in message >>> news:E8adnZh0I57JjATVnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net... >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Aug 5, 1:38 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:b869657a-8ad3-4d4d-9f10-5440569a3345(a)34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>> On Aug 4, 10:01 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Aug 4, 3:54 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:147d2d46-ff33-4aac-b29a-7e24af243840(a)k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> day of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assembled >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unto >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a fire >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caught. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disciples >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> durst >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likewise. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide >>>>>>>>>>>>>> quoted >>>>>>>>>>>>>> text - >>>>>>>>>>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court. >>>>>>>>>>>> For what kinds of cases? >>>>>>>>>>> For all kinds of cases. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as >>>>>>>>>>> evidence in the monkey trial. >>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>>>> All kinds if cases? >>>>>>>>>> You mean, "one type of case"? >>>>>>>>> No, a lawyer can attempt to introduce any physical object as >>>>>>>>> evidence >>>>>>>>> in a court case. >>>>>>>> But, will it be ACCEPTED as evidence? >>>>>>>> You keep trying these clever games with your debating tactics. >>>>>>>> Clever, >>>>>>>> to you. Lame and flimsy to everyone else. >>>>>>> Not today. A judge today in the United States will not even allow the >>>>>>> Constitution of the United States to be entered as evidence. >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>> It depends on what you are trying to prove. >>>>>> Why were you trying to introduce the Constitution as evidence, and >>>>>> how could >>>>>> it prove or disprove anything in relation to your particular >>>>>> circumstabces? >>>>>> -- >>>>> The sixth amendment to the Constitution says that the defendant has >>>>> the right to trial by jury in "all criminal prosecutions". � The judge >>>>> in my case had just denied my right to trial by jury. >>>> Then you can appeal. >>> Not on those grounds he can't. >>> ;-) >>> The only grounds for appeal he has would be to provide evidence that the >>> judgment of the three doctors who declared him insane was mistaken and >>> incorrect. >>> Not much chance of that, is there? >> He is acting like he's the only sane one in a sea of insane people. �:-) >> >> -- >> **************************************************** >> * � � � � �DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 � � � � �* >> *--------------------------------------------------* >> * Can God create a Thai dish so spicy that even He * >> * can't eat it? � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � �* >> ****************************************************- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > It's been a couple weeks since I even looked at this thread, so I > decided to check in. rbwinn is still drooling, and several of you are > still trying to engage him. It's like trying to deal with an > Alzheimer's patient; they have their own reality, and NOTHING you can > do can get through to them - ever. Your excuse that onlookers might > become more knowledgeable by seeing what nutters are really like long > ago reached the point of diminishing returns. Are you so locked into > this ridiculous dance you simply cannot stop? Do you really think the > looney will "win" if he has the last word? rbwinn is best left to > babble on his own - please trust me on this. There will be a point where I will leave Winn alone in his idiocy. It's coming soon. :-) -- **************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *--------------------------------------------------* * Can God create a Thai dish so spicy that even He * * can't eat it? * **************************************************** |