Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: DanielSan on 6 Aug 2008 20:46 rbwinn wrote: > On Aug 6, 3:33�am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Aug 5, 7:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Aug 5, 6:45 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Aug 4, 10:01 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Aug 4, 3:54 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:147d2d46-ff33-4aac-b29a-7e24af243840(a)k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caught. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> durst >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likewise. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide quoted >>>>>>>>>>>>>> text - >>>>>>>>>>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court. >>>>>>>>>>>> For what kinds of cases? >>>>>>>>>>> For all kinds of cases. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as >>>>>>>>>>> evidence in the monkey trial. >>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>>>> All kinds if cases? >>>>>>>>>> You mean, "one type of case"? >>>>>>>>> No, a lawyer can attempt to introduce any physical object as evidence >>>>>>>>> in a court case. >>>>>>>> But, will it be ACCEPTED as evidence? >>>>>>>> You keep trying these clever games with your debating tactics. Clever, >>>>>>>> to you. Lame and flimsy to everyone else. >>>>>>> Not today. A judge today in the United States will not even allow the >>>>>>> Constitution of the United States to be entered as evidence. >>>>>> Want me to demolish that claim, too? >>>>> Go ahead and try. Show where one of these police state judges has >>>>> allowed the Constitution in police state court. >>>> So glad for your permission. >>>> United States v. Donald Fell >>>> Case summary: Is the Federal Death Penalty Act of 1994 unconstitutional >>>> as per the 8th Amendment?http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/crim/usfell92402opn.pdf >>> This defendant was obviously given a trial by jury. �This case does >>> not apply. >> This case most certainly applies. �You asked for a case wherein the >> Constitution was used as evidence. �The Constitution was used as >> evidence in this case. >> > If there was a jury, then police state justice was not imposed on the > defendant. You need to find another case. Sorry, bub. You moved the goalposts. I won't play your games. You lose. -- **************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *--------------------------------------------------* * Can God create a Thai dish so spicy that even He * * can't eat it? * ****************************************************
From: DanielSan on 6 Aug 2008 20:46 rbwinn wrote: > On Aug 6, 3:33�am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Aug 5, 7:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Aug 5, 6:50 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Aug 4, 10:10 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Aug 4, 8:35 pm, hhyaps...(a)gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Aug 4, 8:02 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caught. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples durst >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likewise. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court. >>>>>>>>>>>> For what kinds of cases? >>>>>>>>>>> For any kind of case. A lawyer can request that a Bible be entered as >>>>>>>>>>> evidence in any court case. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as >>>>>>>>>>> evidence in the famous "monkey trial". >>>>>>>>>>> Riobert B. Winn >>>>>>>>>> A judge must be mad or loony if he were to allow for bible as >>>>>>>>>> evidence. >>>>>>>>>> You mean that ancient time recording can be the evidence for modern >>>>>>>>>> time crime or cases? >>>>>>>>>> This would also mean America is declining, at a rate faster than I >>>>>>>>>> thought.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>> Well, it happened in 1934, or whenever it was. So we have that >>>>>>>>> precedent in American jurisprudence. >>>>>>>> In only one type of trial, if it happened at all. Your credibility is >>>>>>>> nil at this point. >>>>>>> Well, judges of today are very careful to make certain that only >>>>>>> atheism is allowed in courtrooms. >>>>>> You mean, they'll only allow secular evidence? >>>>>>> That does not mean that the Bible >>>>>>> is not evidence. No matter how hard atheists try, they are unable to >>>>>>> make the Bible disappear. That is why it is evidence. >>>>>> Atheists are not trying to make the Bible disappear. >>>>>> It also isn't evidence, no matter hard you try to make it evidence. >>>>>> -- >>>>> So you are saying that the Bible is like Hezekiah's tunnel, it does >>>>> not exist. >>>> Um. No. >>> � If the Bible exists, then it is evidence. �So does it exist or not? >> It exists, but is not evidence. >> > If it is not evidence, then in what way does it exist? As a fiction book. -- **************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *--------------------------------------------------* * Can God create a Thai dish so spicy that even He * * can't eat it? * ****************************************************
From: Smiler on 6 Aug 2008 19:56 "DanielSan" <danielsan(a)speakeasy.net> wrote in message news:z-GdnRZdGrg4iwTVnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net... > Smiler wrote: >> "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message >> news:1082fbd6-2ddd-4605-8acb-e9482c479d0c(a)25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com... >> On Aug 4, 6:27?am, Masked Avenger <cootey...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>> rbwinn wrote: >>>> On Aug 1, 6:47 am, Masked Avenger <cootey...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> rbwinn wrote: <snip of winn's lunacy> >> >> 1 Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that >> perish foolishness, but unto us which are saved it is the power of >> God. >> ======================================== >> Harry Potter left for Hogwarts from platform 9 3/4 at Kings Cross >> station. > > Arthur Dent witnessed the construction of the Earth. The Earth exists. > Therefore, we are descended from Golgafrinchams. > He also witnessed it's destruction at the hands of the Vogons The mice were very upset about that! Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
From: rbwinn on 6 Aug 2008 23:25 On 6 Aug, 17:13, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > On Aug 6, 11:37 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 6, 1:49 am, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > > > <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > On Aug 6, 4:19 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 5, 7:29 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > > > > > <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 6, 12:05 am, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 10:38 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > > > > > > > <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 5, 8:52 am, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 10:54 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > > > > > > > > > <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 6:16 am, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 1, 11:57 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 1, 8:29 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> rbwinn wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>> On Jul 31, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Why don't we just wait for him before judging them then? > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I happen to think that if anyone needs judging it is the liars and > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> hypocrites. But you don't see me campaigning to remove their human > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> rights. > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Well, yes, I do. Like other atheists you campaign for abortion, > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> which removes the right to live of the people who are killed. > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Please show me evidence that I've campaigned for abortion. Because > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> that's a flat out lie. And is that your best effort at demonising > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> atheists? > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Atheists have caused more abortions than any other group of people. > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> So, you can't show evidence where atheists (like Al) have campaigned for > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> abortion. You have lied. > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> -- > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Josef Stalin was an atheist like Al. While Josef Stalin was dictator > > > > > > > > > > > >>> of the Soviet Union, the number of abortions in Russia increased to > > > > > > > > > > > >>> about five per woman. > > > > > > > > > > > >>> In the People's Republic of China, women who have had one child are > > > > > > > > > > > >>> required by the state to abort any children conceived after the first > > > > > > > > > > > >>> child is born. > > > > > > > > > > > >> So, you have lied. > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, I did not lie. > > > > > > > > > > > > You said that Al campaigned for abortion. Are you going to provide > > > > > > > > > > > evidence for this? > > > > > > > > > > > Sure. Ask Al if he is in favor of right to life. > > > > > > > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > > > > > > What does that have to do with whether I've campaigned for legal > > > > > > > > > abortions? > > > > > > > > > > Al- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > Well, I am certainly sorry if I have misjudged you, Al. I think you > > > > > > > > are pro-abortion. > > > > > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > > > > That is because you are pidgeon-holing people based on misinformation > > > > > > > from your church. > > > > > > > I am neither pro- nor anti- abortion. I think it's something for women > > > > > > > to decide on. It doesn't directly effect me, and I think it > > > > > > > presumptuous for men to have a say. Not an opinion, but a say. > > > > > > > > Al- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > So you are pro-abortion. > > > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > > No. I'm pro letting women make their own minds up. If asked, I would > > > > > warn against it. But I'm not arrogant enough to tell women what to > > > > > do. > > > > > Just because you think the state should control women's bodies does > > > > > not mean that my position that I (and the state) should have no say in > > > > > it, is in any way pro-abortion. > > > > > > So you're pro-death then? > > > > > > Al- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > Pro-life. > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > OK, I'll rephrase that. > > > You're anti-woman. > > > What makes you think I am anti-woman? > > Robert B. Winn > > What makes you think I'm pro-abortion? > I have this idea of you in my head, and it said you were anti-woman. > That's all I need to make up my mind aparently. > > Al- Hide quoted text - Abortion has been an atheistic agenda for centuries. Atheists claim that abortion is necessary in order to control the population of the earth. Robert B. Winn
From: DanielSan on 6 Aug 2008 23:29
rbwinn wrote: > On 6 Aug, 17:13, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: >> On Aug 6, 11:37 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Aug 6, 1:49 am, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" >>> <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>>> On Aug 6, 4:19 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: >>>>> On Aug 5, 7:29 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" >>>>> <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>>>>> On Aug 6, 12:05 am, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>> On Aug 4, 10:38 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" >>>>>>> <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Aug 5, 8:52 am, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 10:54 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" >>>>>>>>> <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 6:16 am, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 11:57 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 8:29 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't we just wait for him before judging them then? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I happen to think that if anyone needs judging it is the liars and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hypocrites. But you don't see me campaigning to remove their human >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rights. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, yes, I do. Like other atheists you campaign for abortion, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which removes the right to live of the people who are killed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please show me evidence that I've campaigned for abortion. Because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's a flat out lie. And is that your best effort at demonising >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atheists? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Atheists have caused more abortions than any other group of people. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you can't show evidence where atheists (like Al) have campaigned for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abortion. You have lied. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josef Stalin was an atheist like Al. While Josef Stalin was dictator >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the Soviet Union, the number of abortions in Russia increased to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about five per woman. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the People's Republic of China, women who have had one child are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required by the state to abort any children conceived after the first >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> child is born. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you have lied. >>>>>>>>>>>>> No, I did not lie. >>>>>>>>>>>> You said that Al campaigned for abortion. Are you going to provide >>>>>>>>>>>> evidence for this? >>>>>>>>>>> Sure. Ask Al if he is in favor of right to life. >>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>>>> What does that have to do with whether I've campaigned for legal >>>>>>>>>> abortions? >>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>> Well, I am certainly sorry if I have misjudged you, Al. I think you >>>>>>>>> are pro-abortion. >>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>> That is because you are pidgeon-holing people based on misinformation >>>>>>>> from your church. >>>>>>>> I am neither pro- nor anti- abortion. I think it's something for women >>>>>>>> to decide on. It doesn't directly effect me, and I think it >>>>>>>> presumptuous for men to have a say. Not an opinion, but a say. >>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>> So you are pro-abortion. >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>> No. I'm pro letting women make their own minds up. If asked, I would >>>>>> warn against it. But I'm not arrogant enough to tell women what to >>>>>> do. >>>>>> Just because you think the state should control women's bodies does >>>>>> not mean that my position that I (and the state) should have no say in >>>>>> it, is in any way pro-abortion. >>>>>> So you're pro-death then? >>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - >>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>> Pro-life. >>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>> OK, I'll rephrase that. >>>> You're anti-woman. >>> What makes you think I am anti-woman? >>> Robert B. Winn >> What makes you think I'm pro-abortion? >> I have this idea of you in my head, and it said you were anti-woman. >> That's all I need to make up my mind aparently. >> >> Al- Hide quoted text - > > Abortion has been an atheistic agenda for centuries. Is that why most people getting abortions are Christian? > Atheists claim > that abortion is necessary in order to control the population of the > earth. Even though the population does need to be controlled, I don't remember any atheist saying that abortion is the only way to do it. -- **************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *--------------------------------------------------* * Can God create a Thai dish so spicy that even He * * can't eat it? * **************************************************** |