From: Phil Bouchard on
eric gisse wrote:
>
> ...because helicopters vibrate enough to ruin the interference. Given that
> the Earth is in *ORBIT* around the sun, orbits are not special. Try again.

Use a magnetorheological damper.

> Sorry phil - not time dilation. Nor do you know enough about how such things
> are modeled and what the limitations of the models are.

Can somebody tell Eric Gisse time is a component of speed?

[...]
From: Androcles on

"Phil Bouchard" <phil(a)fornux.com> wrote in message
news:4b5fe9c0$1(a)news.x-privat.org...
> eric gisse wrote:
>>
>> ...because helicopters vibrate enough to ruin the interference. Given
>> that the Earth is in *ORBIT* around the sun, orbits are not special. Try
>> again.
>
> Use a magnetorheological damper.
>
>> Sorry phil - not time dilation. Nor do you know enough about how such
>> things are modeled and what the limitations of the models are.
>
> Can somebody tell Eric Gisse time is a component of speed?
>
> [...]

Only if you can find an available neuron that will fire long enough to
accept
it, otherwise hysteresis takes over and it reverts to its normal bigot.




From: PD on
On Jan 26, 7:48 pm, Phil Bouchard <p...(a)fornux.com> wrote:
> PD wrote:
>
> > The principle of relativity pertains to inertial reference frames,
> > Phil. Observers in non-inertial frames do not expect the principle of
> > relativity to apply.
>
> So you're basically saying SR works only as far as the MM experiment is
> concerned and nothing else.  SR is consequently quite useless...

Not at all. It works in thousands of applications. If you think that
there are only two -- the MM experiment and experiments with a
significant change in gravitational field -- then you are sadly
unaware.

>
> > What evidence do you have that the principle of relativity is wrong,
> > Phil?
>
> - If you bring the MM experiment in orbit it won't work

What makes you say that?

> - Many discrepancies in time dilation of incoming probes were observed

Name one.

> - GR not only doesn't explain the Hubble Sphere but doesn't even know
> its own cosmological constant

This doesn't have anything to do with the principle of relativity,
Phil. We were talking about the principle of relativity.

> - blah blah blah
>
> > What evidence is there that the speed of light in a vacuum is not c,
> > Phil? That's the other postulate.
>
> See above.

None of those are measurements of the speed of light in a vacuum,
Phil. What evidence is there that the speed of light in a vacuum is
not c, Phil?

>
> > ? Even physical laws are not proven, Phil. Were you expecting that it
> > should be?
>
> This is quite a pathetic approach to solving problems if you can't even
> prove your equations and your own sanity.

I'm sorry if you were under the impression that physical laws were
proven. Perhaps you need a first year course in the scientific method.

>
> > What you think doesn't matter, does it, Phil?
> > GR doesn't prove itself by disproving others. Did you expect it
> > should?
>
> "Live and let die." -- Phil

From: Phil Bouchard on
Sam Wormley wrote:
>
> You are incredibly naive, Phil! Take a freshman physics class.

If v = m/s and s is reduced then v will increase. If v increases then E
= 1/2mv^2 will increase as well.
From: Androcles on

"Phil Bouchard" <phil(a)fornux.com> wrote in message
news:4b608c09(a)news.x-privat.org...
> Sam Wormley wrote:
>>
>> You are incredibly naive, Phil! Take a freshman physics class.
>
> If v = m/s and s is reduced then v will increase. If v increases then E =
> 1/2mv^2 will increase as well.

Very logical. And since v is relative then energy must be relative too.
How much potential energy does a rock have if it is on the floor above
you?
How much potential energy does a rock have if it is two floors above
you?
How much potential energy does a rock have if it is on the floor below
you?