Five Small Problems with AGW science.
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From: Marvin the Martian on 21 Feb 2010 15:36 On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 09:38:18 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote: > On 2/21/10 8:26 AM, David Staup wrote: >> "Sam Wormley"<swormley1(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > >>> Did you know that climatologist use 30-year trends, Marvin? >> >> SO WHAT? lets restate the question as follows' >> >> have the temperatures since 1995 followed the trend "established" prior >> to 1995 or more importantly have they followed the predictions of the >> model. >> >> > Global surface (land and sea) temperature increase > > http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads/images/global-surface-temp- trends.gif Damn you to hell, Wormley. The subject is P.D. Jones ADMITTED that there has been no global temperature increase since 1995, that he was caught bald faced LYING to fudge the data to show warming, and in rebuttal, you show us P.D. Jones fake data!! READ the cite on your idiot graph, and stop posting that damned thing! Jones is NOT credible. That graph is pure bullshit! We KNOW that 1934 was just as warm as 1998, yet this Jones produced bullshit doesn't show that. It's a damned lie, okay?
From: Claudius Denk on 21 Feb 2010 15:44 On Feb 21, 8:31 am, Chris L Peterson <c...(a)alumni.caltech.edu> wrote: > On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 10:10:13 -0600, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > >Marvin, read sections B2, B3, B4, C2... > > Sam- > > You're arguing science with somebody who calls himself Marvin the > Martian, Yes, but what's funniest of all is that Martin the Martian is winning.
From: Sam Wormley on 21 Feb 2010 20:44 On 2/21/10 2:36 PM, Marvin the Martian wrote: > On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 09:38:18 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote: >> Global surface (land and sea) temperature increase >> >> http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads/images/global-surface-temp- > trends.gif > > Damn you to hell, Wormley. The subject is P.D. Jones ADMITTED that there > has been no global temperature increase since 1995, that he was caught > bald faced LYING to fudge the data to show warming, and in rebuttal, you > show us P.D. Jones fake data!! Just because the earth is warming doesn't mean you should get steamed, Marvin! It doesn't matter what you say somebody else says. What matters is what the data says and there is a lot of it showing that the earth continues to warm even from 1995 to the present. http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/anomalies/index.html http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/trends.html http://www.whrc.org/resources/online_publications/warming_earth/scientific_evidence.htm There are many sources of good data http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/data-sources/ http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-monitoring/index.php Here's some data from Iowa State University http://www.meteor.iastate.edu/faculty/takle/presentations.html More from University of Iowa http://www.engineering.uiowa.edu/faculty-staff/profile-directory/cee/schnoor_j.php > > READ the cite on your idiot graph, and stop posting that damned thing! > Jones is NOT credible. That graph is pure bullshit! We KNOW that 1934 was > just as warm as 1998, yet this Jones produced bullshit doesn't show that. > It's a damned lie, okay? >
From: AM on 21 Feb 2010 22:14 Sam Wormley wrote: > It doesn't matter what you say somebody else says. What matters > is what the data says and there is a lot of it showing that the earth > continues to warm even from 1995 to the present. No, what matters is what the voters think. And right now, they think that AGW is going to cost them a LOT of money they can't afford right now, which is why nothing will be done about it. I don't know why everyone is getting excited about it now, nothing is going to happen when so many countries are more worried about job's and economic prospects than AGW. It's a shame fanatics on both sides are ruining it for everyone else... -- AM http://sctuser.home.comcast.net http://www.novac.com
From: leonard78sp on 21 Feb 2010 22:30
On Feb 21, 8:44 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 2/21/10 2:36 PM, Marvin the Martian wrote: > > > Damn you to hell, Wormley. The subject is P.D. Jones ADMITTED that there > > has been no global temperature increase since 1995, that he was caught > > bald faced LYING to fudge the data to show warming, and in rebuttal, you > > show us P.D. Jones fake data!! > > Just because the earth is warming doesn't mean you should get steamed, > Marvin! It doesn't matter what you say somebody else says. What matters > is what the data says and there is a lot of it showing that the earth > continues to warm even from 1995 to the present. > øA lot of useless links snipped > > > > READ the cite on your idiot graph, and stop posting that damned thing! > > Jones is NOT credible. That graph is pure bullshit! We KNOW that 1934 was > > just as warm as 1998, yet this Jones produced bullshit doesn't show that. > > It's a damned lie, okay? ø The issue is really irrelevant. Nobody can control the wind Nobody can control the rain or snow Nobody (collectively) can control climate. Global temps are within natural variations Oceans heating are a prelude to glaciation Get used to it!! | In real science the burden of proof is always | on the proposer, never on the sceptics. So far | neither IPCC nor anyone else has provided one | iota of valid data for global warming nor have | they provided data that climate change is being | effected by commerce and industry, and not by | natural phenomena |