Five Small Problems with AGW science.
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From: Chris L Peterson on 21 Feb 2010 22:34 On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 22:14:02 -0500, AM <sctuser(a)comcast.net> wrote: >No, what matters is what the voters think. That doesn't change the likelihood that we're rapidly heading towards ecological and economic disaster. The science it what it is. What the voters think only affects whether we do anything about it, and it doesn't look too likely we will. _________________________________________________ Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com
From: I M on 21 Feb 2010 23:03 On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 20:34:02 -0700, Chris L Peterson <clp(a)alumni.caltech.edu> wrote: >On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 22:14:02 -0500, AM <sctuser(a)comcast.net> wrote: > >>No, what matters is what the voters think. > >That doesn't change the likelihood that we're rapidly heading towards >ecological and economic disaster. You must have watched one too many movies, maybe China, India and the rest of the third world is damaging the environment, the air and water in western countries has never been better. >The science it what it is. What science? CO2 traps heat? >What the >voters think only affects whether we do anything about it, and it >doesn't look too likely we will. Do what, about what, only nutcases think anything can be done if you mean stop using fossil fuels before alternate energy is available and affordable. There is at least one too many activists that thinks talking will accomplish anything. >_________________________________________________ > >Chris L Peterson >Cloudbait Observatory >http://www.cloudbait.com Oh, look, a sunspot, maybe it will warm up; http://umbra.nascom.nasa.gov/images/latest_mdi_igram.gif
From: Chris L Peterson on 21 Feb 2010 23:13 On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 23:03:22 -0500, "I M @ good guy" <I_m(a)good.guy> wrote: > You must have watched one too many >movies, maybe China, India and the rest of >the third world is damaging the environment, >the air and water in western countries has >never been better. China is rapidly becoming the world leader in green technology. They're smart enough to know that they have to change. > What science? CO2 traps heat? That's the most obvious, since it's undisputed. But the knowledge base is much deeper than that. > Do what, about what, only nutcases think >anything can be done if you mean stop using >fossil fuels before alternate energy is available >and affordable. It's already affordable. It is only the fact that the real costs of using fossil fuels are hidden that makes it appear otherwise. We easily have the ability to radically reduce our CO2 emissions: existing alternate sources (wind and solar), carbon sequestered coal plants, new nuclear technologies. For less than we're wasting on the military, we could develop solar-to-liquid fuel technologies. And great advances are possible in the area of simple conservation. These things are all doable in the next ten years. We don't have to instantly stop using fossil fuels, we just need to be serious about heading in a new direction. _________________________________________________ Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com
From: Benj on 22 Feb 2010 00:28 On Feb 21, 11:31 am, Chris L Peterson <c...(a)alumni.caltech.edu> wrote: > On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 10:10:13 -0600, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > >Marvin, read sections B2, B3, B4, C2... > > Sam- > > You're arguing science with somebody who calls himself Marvin the > Martian, is obviously ignorant about what science is and has no > knowledge of climate science specifically, and is uninterested in > learning (or incapable). What do you hope to accomplish? > _________________________________________________ > > Chris L Peterson > Cloudbait Observatoryhttp://www.cloudbait.com Oh great. Sam "the bot" Wormley and Chris the amateur astronomer calling someone else ignorant about science. That's a nice laugh. All Sam the Sham can to is repeat links to his pro-AGW propaganda organization's "fact sheet". And what is it that you do? It's all junk science just as Marvin states. And what are you? An amateur climate scientist? Hey, there's nothing wrong with being an interested amateur IF one is willing to discuss issues. All we ever get on this issue is political propaganda. That alone should prove the fraudulent nature of the subject. Smoking guns lie about everywhere. From Algore's reversal of cause and effect between ocean temperature and Atmospheric CO2 to the faked Hockey Stick that not only used bad data which was fudged in part by closing the majority of temperature stations in cold places, to an uber clever use of the commonly misunderstanding of Nile-like statistics to create a totally false "sky is falling" scenario. There's no hope for Sam, but you Chris ought to get your nose out of your amateur observatory and into some real science books for a change. You can start with the absorption bands of CO2 vs H2O. Oh, my! It seems that Marvin the Martian is correct! Waddya know about that!
From: Benj on 22 Feb 2010 00:29
On Feb 21, 11:56 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >http://www.swissre.com/resources/2225fb0040c36b1fa49cbfb02e99dba1-Fac.... > > This Document was written specifically for the like of you, Marvin, > that cling to gross misunderstandings! Right on Worm. The party manual says it's true, and that's all you need to know! Everybody else is an infidel! Jihad! |