Five Small Problems with AGW science.
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From: Bill Ward on 21 Feb 2010 01:45 On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 12:12:58 -0600, Marvin the Martian wrote: > On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:14:48 +0100, Roving rabbit wrote: > >> Marvin the Martian wrote: >>> Scientific experts like Al Gore and Barack Obama assure us that the >>> science of AGW is settled; and it is except for a few minor details, >>> those details being: >>> >>> 1) There isn't any warming. Even Jones admits this. >> >> Lie #1 >> >>> 2) CO2 doesn't cause the greenhouse effect. Water vapor does. >> >> Lie #2 >> >>> 3) We didn't put the CO2 into the atmosphere. A warmer ocean did that. >> >> Lie #3 >> >>> 4) AGW science isn't science, it's bullshit and leftist propaganda. >> >> Lie #4 >> >>> 5) If there was warming, it wouldn't be bad, it would be good. >> >> Lie #5 >> >> >>> Gawd, Humans are a gullible species. I can't believe you fell for AGW. >> >> Check that iphone app from www.skepticalscience.com, I love it. >> >> Q > > The "iPhone app" is still using Jones lies. Even Jones now admits that > there has been no warming since 1995. So, your "app" is just stupid > propaganda that made a fool out of you. It was apparently written by Lloyd Parker.
From: Marvin the Martian on 21 Feb 2010 02:29 On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 16:34:52 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote: > On 2/20/10 1:30 PM, Last Post wrote: >> Then where is it [proof of global warming]? >> >> > Global warming is the increase in the average temperature of Earth's > near-surface air and oceans since the mid-20th century and its projected > continuation. Global surface temperature increased 0.74 ± 0.18 °C (1.33 > ± 0.32 °F) between the start and the end of the 20th century. > >> RealClimate is a commentary site on climate science by working climate >> scientists >> http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/data-sources/ Damn it, Wormley. Realclimate.org is Mann's website. He's the idiot who fabricated the infamous "hockey stick" lie and told everyone that we'd be fried by now unless we packed up all our money in suitcases and sent it to the chinese.
From: Roving rabbit on 21 Feb 2010 06:21 Bill Ward wrote: > On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 12:12:58 -0600, Marvin the Martian wrote: > >> On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:14:48 +0100, Roving rabbit wrote: >> >>> Marvin the Martian wrote: >>>> Scientific experts like Al Gore and Barack Obama assure us that the >>>> science of AGW is settled; and it is except for a few minor details, >>>> those details being: >>>> >>>> 1) There isn't any warming. Even Jones admits this. >>> Lie #1 >>> >>>> 2) CO2 doesn't cause the greenhouse effect. Water vapor does. >>> Lie #2 >>> >>>> 3) We didn't put the CO2 into the atmosphere. A warmer ocean did that. >>> Lie #3 >>> >>>> 4) AGW science isn't science, it's bullshit and leftist propaganda. >>> Lie #4 >>> >>>> 5) If there was warming, it wouldn't be bad, it would be good. >>> Lie #5 >>> >>> >>>> Gawd, Humans are a gullible species. I can't believe you fell for AGW. >>> Check that iphone app from www.skepticalscience.com, I love it. >>> >>> Q >> The "iPhone app" is still using Jones lies. Even Jones now admits that >> there has been no warming since 1995. So, your "app" is just stupid >> propaganda that made a fool out of you. > > It was apparently written by Lloyd Parker. I see how frustrated you are, but the whole world can now see on their iPhone that you are dead wrong. I love this app. Q -- The difference between us and the Titanic is the band.
From: David Staup on 21 Feb 2010 09:26 "Sam Wormley" <swormley1(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:iJGdndb1ELTJIR3WnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d(a)mchsi.com... > On 2/20/10 10:42 PM, Marvin the Martian wrote: >> On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 15:00:11 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote: >> >>> On 2/20/10 12:45 PM, Marvin the Martian wrote: >>>> Now Jones even ADMITS there has been no warming since 1995, so you >>>> don't even have the "correlation proves causation" fallacy as an >>>> excuse. >>> >>> Of course, you are wrong Marvin! There certainly have been global >>> warming since 1995--That's in that data. You are in denial and not >>> even questioning your reasoning. >>> >> >> I keep pointing out the utter stupidity in your quoting the damned lies >> of the frauds to vindicate the damned lies of the frauds. >> >> Jones admits there has been no statistically significant warming since >> 1995. > > Did you know that climatologist use 30-year trends, Marvin? SO WHAT? lets restate the question as follows' have the temperatures since 1995 followed the trend "established" prior to 1995 or more importantly have they followed the predictions of the model. this claim that the data from 1995 to presant is not sufficient to show a trend is sooooo bogus as it can certainly be used to verify (or not) that the predicted increases have occured....that is how science works >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250872/Climategate-U-turn- >> Astonishment-scientist-centre-global-warming-email-row-admits-data- >> organised.html >> >> "Climategate U-turn as scientist at centre of row admits: There has been >> no global warming since 1995" > > > Global surface (land and sea) temperature increase > > http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads/images/global-surface-temp-trends.gif > > >> >> Deal with it instead of being a denial bot. >
From: Roving rabbit on 21 Feb 2010 09:35
David Staup wrote: > "Sam Wormley" <swormley1(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:iJGdndb1ELTJIR3WnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d(a)mchsi.com... >> On 2/20/10 10:42 PM, Marvin the Martian wrote: >>> On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 15:00:11 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote: >>> >>>> On 2/20/10 12:45 PM, Marvin the Martian wrote: >>>>> Now Jones even ADMITS there has been no warming since 1995, so you >>>>> don't even have the "correlation proves causation" fallacy as an >>>>> excuse. >>>> Of course, you are wrong Marvin! There certainly have been global >>>> warming since 1995--That's in that data. You are in denial and not >>>> even questioning your reasoning. >>>> >>> I keep pointing out the utter stupidity in your quoting the damned lies >>> of the frauds to vindicate the damned lies of the frauds. >>> >>> Jones admits there has been no statistically significant warming since >>> 1995. >> Did you know that climatologist use 30-year trends, Marvin? > > SO WHAT? lets restate the question as follows' > > have the temperatures since 1995 followed the trend "established" prior to > 1995 or more importantly have they followed the predictions of the model. > > this claim that the data from 1995 to presant is not sufficient to show a > trend is sooooo bogus as it can certainly be used to verify (or not) that > the predicted increases have occured....that is how science works Indeed, an estimated temperature trend is not statistically significant after 15 years. For climate trends you simply need a longer data record. You better ask more intelligent questions to the professor next time, also, you better listen to what the professor exactly says next time. Also, don't read that trash published by your denier buddy journalist who exactly writes in the right wing church magazine what the greater denier denomination wants to hear. Did you understand it now? Get that iPhone app, you need it. Q > > >>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250872/Climategate-U-turn- >>> Astonishment-scientist-centre-global-warming-email-row-admits-data- >>> organised.html >>> >>> "Climategate U-turn as scientist at centre of row admits: There has been >>> no global warming since 1995" >> >> Global surface (land and sea) temperature increase >> >> http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads/images/global-surface-temp-trends.gif >> >> >>> Deal with it instead of being a denial bot. > > -- The difference between us and the Titanic is the band. |