Five Small Problems with AGW science.
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From: Sam Wormley on 20 Feb 2010 23:48 On 2/20/10 10:41 PM, Last Post wrote: > � I know the difference from fact and propaganda That is not exhibited in your posting record!
From: Sam Wormley on 20 Feb 2010 23:53 On 2/20/10 10:42 PM, Marvin the Martian wrote: > On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 15:00:11 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote: > >> On 2/20/10 12:45 PM, Marvin the Martian wrote: >>> Now Jones even ADMITS there has been no warming since 1995, so you >>> don't even have the "correlation proves causation" fallacy as an >>> excuse. >> >> Of course, you are wrong Marvin! There certainly have been global >> warming since 1995--That's in that data. You are in denial and not >> even questioning your reasoning. >> > > I keep pointing out the utter stupidity in your quoting the damned lies > of the frauds to vindicate the damned lies of the frauds. > > Jones admits there has been no statistically significant warming since > 1995. Did you know that climatologist use 30-year trends, Marvin? > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250872/Climategate-U-turn- > Astonishment-scientist-centre-global-warming-email-row-admits-data- > organised.html > > "Climategate U-turn as scientist at centre of row admits: There has been > no global warming since 1995" Global surface (land and sea) temperature increase http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads/images/global-surface-temp-trends.gif > > Deal with it instead of being a denial bot.
From: Sam Wormley on 20 Feb 2010 23:59 On 2/20/10 10:39 PM, Marvin the Martian wrote: > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250872/Climategate-U-turn- > Astonishment-scientist-centre-global-warming-email-row-admits-data- > organised.html > > Begin Quote: > Climategate U-turn as scientist at centre of row admits: There has been > no global warming since 1995 > > By Jonathan Petre > Last updated at 5:12 PM on 14th February 2010 > > > * Data for vital 'hockey stick graph' has gone missing > * There has been no global warming since 1995 > * Warming periods have happened before - but NOT due to man-made > changes Hey Marvin--Read Section A3 > http://www.swissre.com/resources/2225fb0040c36b1fa49cbfb02e99dba1-Factsheet_Climate_sceptic.pdf A) Global warming: • Al Global temperature cannot be calculated because of unreliable measurements • A2 Global warming is an artifact of the Urban Heat Island effect • A3 The most important argument of IPCC (Mann et al "hockey stick" curve) has proved to be incorrect • A4 Satellite data show no warming of the troposphere In contrast to model predictions • A5 Sea level isn't rising everywhere • A6 There Is no apparent Increase of extreme events • A7 In earlier times the climate was much warmer than today B) Forcing factors: • B1 Other factors have potent ally caused the present warming • B2 Water vapour is the most important greenhouse gas, CO2 is unimportant • B3 Climate change is driven by the sun • B4 Climate change is driven by cosmic rays • B5 Anthropogenic CO, emissions are much smaller than natural CO2 emissions • B6 Volcanoes emit more greenhouse gases than human activities • B7 There was global cooling between 1940 and 1970 although CO2 concentration increased C) Carbon dioxide (CO2) • Cl CO2 measurements In Ice cores are not reliable • C2 CO2 increase is just the result of temperature change • C3 CO2 is just a fertilizer for plants and therefore positive • C4 The observed increase in CO, IS much smaller than assumed In climate models • C5 The greenhouse effect of CO, is small because CO, absorption bands are saturated > http://www.swissre.com/resources/2225fb0040c36b1fa49cbfb02e99dba1-Factsheet_Climate_sceptic.pdf Data shows otherwise Marvin! > http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads/images/global-surface-temp-trends.gif
From: Last Post on 21 Feb 2010 00:00 On Feb 20, 11:48 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 2/20/10 10:41 PM, Last Post wrote: > > > ø I know the difference from fact and propaganda > > That is not exhibited in your posting record! ø That is only in your misinformed view. ø Worm you are a poster boy for scientific ignorance. Here is a little quizz for you: ø Can you control the wind? Can you control the rain or snow? Can you control the climate. If you say yes to any one be prepared to describe your method | In real science the burden of proof is always | on the proposer, never on the sceptics. So far | neither IPCC nor anyone else has provided one | iota of valid data for global warming nor have | they provided data that climate change is being | effected by commerce and industry, and not by | natural phenomena
From: Red Cloud on 21 Feb 2010 00:14
On Feb 17, 10:07 pm, Benj <bjac...(a)iwaynet.net> wrote: > On Feb 17, 10:22 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Marvin, I can't believe how unobjective you are. I wonder when > > you will wake up. > > Sam, tell us how you feel about global warming. We would really like > to know. Rather call climate change. Climate change. Climate change means more than temperature change or more than getter warmer cooler. Climate issue is more complicated than you simple-mind American bozo sticked all with just temperature issue. This is American political issue, not about climate issue. Marvin is other side of American-bozo from Al Gore's left side. |