Fresh Debian Install w/o Exim?
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From: Carlos Williams on 1 Mar 2010 15:00 I am trying to install Debian (Testing) via 'netinst' disk and for some reason am completely unable to install Debian w/o Exim. It appears that Cron is a default package and depends on Exim. Does anyone know how I can completely omit this from a fresh Debian install? When I run: apt-get remove --purge exim4 I am still left with tons of man pages, config files, user accounts (Debian-exim) for the application I just removed. Basically I am left with a bunch if orphaned junk files for an application I never wanted to have installed to begin with. Any advice? *PS - I am trying to use Postfix for a replacement MTA and even when I install Postfix, it auto removes Exim4 however still leaves all the orphaned files and junk.* -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/d80f793f1003011159x32f18d97j39b078af2e15bb14(a)mail.gmail.com
From: Alex Samad on 1 Mar 2010 15:10 On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 02:59:23PM -0500, Carlos Williams wrote: > I am trying to install Debian (Testing) via 'netinst' disk and for > some reason am completely unable to install Debian w/o Exim. It > appears that Cron is a default package and depends on Exim. Does > anyone know how I can completely omit this from a fresh Debian > install? When I run: > > apt-get remove --purge exim4 > > I am still left with tons of man pages, config files, user accounts > (Debian-exim) for the application I just removed. Basically I am left > with a bunch if orphaned junk files for an application I never wanted > to have installed to begin with. > > Any advice? I use nullmailer in these situations > > *PS - I am trying to use Postfix for a replacement MTA and even when I > install Postfix, it auto removes Exim4 however still leaves all the > orphaned files and junk.* could this be because you have removed and not purged the package ? > > -- "We need to counter the shockwave of the evildoer by having individual rate cuts accelerated and by thinking about tax rebates." - George W. Bush 10/04/2001 Washington, DC
From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. on 1 Mar 2010 15:30 On Monday 01 March 2010 13:59:23 Carlos Williams wrote: > I am trying to install Debian (Testing) via 'netinst' disk and for > some reason am completely unable to install Debian w/o Exim. It > appears that Cron is a default package and depends on Exim. Or any other mail-transport-daemon. > Does > anyone know how I can completely omit this from a fresh Debian > install? I think installing postfix at the same time or before cron should do it. I usually install a very minimal system and them build up from there outside of the installer. I can't remember if this brought in exim4-daemon-light. > When I run: > > apt-get remove --purge exim4 I'm not sure exactly how apt-get handles this situation, but the exim4 package doesn't contain most of the files that are part of an exim4 installation. The binaries are shipped in package exim4-daemon-light or exim4-daemon-heavy; the docs are in another package; the debconf stuff is in exim4-config. So, even though you specified 'remove' and '--purge', I'm not convinced you've told your package manager to get rid of all files exim4-related. > I am still left with tons of man pages, config files, user accounts > (Debian-exim) for the application I just removed. Basically I am left > with a bunch if orphaned junk files for an application I never wanted > to have installed to begin with. IIRC, user accounts aren't removed, even on purge. Something do to with not wanting the have the UID get reused by an unrelated program. I could be wrong though, e.g. if that UID (range) is statically allocated by Debian. > Any advice? After installing an alternate mail-transport-agent (aptitude search '~c'). If that shows any packages, you may want to (aptitude purge '~c'). > *PS - I am trying to use Postfix for a replacement MTA and even when I > install Postfix, Postfix works well in the Debian environment, or so I'm told. > it auto removes Exim4 however still leaves all the > orphaned files and junk.* I'm not convinced this is a statement of fact, but depending on how the installer does things it could be accurate. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. bss(a)iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/ \_/
From: Richard Hector on 1 Mar 2010 15:40 On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 14:59 -0500, Carlos Williams wrote: > I am trying to install Debian (Testing) via 'netinst' disk and for > some reason am completely unable to install Debian w/o Exim. [...] > I am trying to use Postfix Yes. Perhaps we need a 'really expert' installation mode, where every time there's an option like (cron): Recommends: exim4 | postfix | mail-transport-agent it asks you what option you want :-) Actually it looks like preseeding may be able to help - I need to have another look later. Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1267475478.3746.3.camel(a)topaz.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz
From: Jordan Metzmeier on 1 Mar 2010 17:00
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Carlos Williams <carloswill(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I am trying to install Debian (Testing) via 'netinst' disk and for > some reason am completely unable to install Debian w/o Exim. It > appears that Cron is a default package and depends on Exim. Does > anyone know how I can completely omit this from a fresh Debian > install? When I run: In Lenny (not sure if its changed as of Squeeze), its the "standard system" task that installs exim4. Don't install this task and install your preferred MTA after installation. -- Jordan Metzmeier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50e5edd51003011352w5b86a23cm66f6aac2b219f(a)mail.gmail.com |