From: deloptes on
Freeman wrote:

> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:40:51PM -0700, evenso wrote:
>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 02:43:32AM +0200, deloptes wrote:
>>
>> . . .
>>
>> >
>> > when is squeeze becoming stable??
>> >
>>
>> According to officialdom, approximately when the number of R-C bugs hits
>> 300. That is the green line here:
>> http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ . Process trumps schedules.
>>
>
> OK, started looking around and found a better answer. :-)
>
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/05/msg00000.html
>

Thank a lot really useful.

I did install yesterday sid 4.4 .... it's a headache ... so I'll wait until
it works at least half the way.
I'll try squeeze (kde4.3) but I think it was told that it's not pretty food
yet.

So to me it looks like we can safely use kde3 the next 2-3 years.

regards


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From: deloptes on
deloptes wrote:

screenshot - I need at least those app/lets working to even start thinking
of using kde

- teatime
- weather
- moon
- clock/calendar
- wireless manager
- skype
- korganizer
- kwallet
- cpu monitor
- infrared control
- powermanagement
- keyboard
- screen management (xrandr interface)
- krypt

I forgot to mention that the keyboard froze after pressing ALT+F2 and
switching language settings

A HUGE trouble I see is with the keyboard layout for my mother
language "bulgarian"
Who the hell have change the default keyboard layout for the phonetic setup?
I've been using this for years now hen I press "W" I get seomthing
different ..
_THIS_ _IS_ _REALLY_ _ODD_ - _STUPID_ _MONKEYS_!

regards
From: Dotan Cohen on
On 10 May 2010 23:41, consul tores <consultores1(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> 2010/5/9 Dotan Cohen <dotancohen(a)gmail.com>:
>> On 8 May 2010 22:35, consul tores <consultores1(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 2010/5/8 Dotan Cohen <dotancohen(a)gmail.com>:
>>>> What useless information? I'd like to fix that if you will be more specific.
>>>
>>> Who are you figuring out you are, man?
>>>
>> A KDE contributor who is trying to help make KDE suitable for you. If
>> you do not appreciate that then I can just buzz right off, no hard
>> feelings.
>
> I did not ask you for help, the message was for other person, and it
> was a comment; then you are not helping; you are an intruder, and a
> troll, of course.
>

I'll not bother you again, then.


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From: Dotan Cohen on
On 11 May 2010 13:50, deloptes <deloptes(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> deloptes wrote:
>
> screenshot - I need at least those app/lets working to even start thinking
> of using kde
>
> - teatime

p kteatime -
KDE 4 utility for making a fine cup of tea

> - weather

http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/yaWP+%28Yet+Another+Weather+Plasmoid%29?content=94106


> - moon

Check!


> - clock/calendar

Check!


> - wireless manager

Knetworkmanager works, but I prefer wicd, which has integration in
KDE's System Settings. It's in the system tray, not on the panel. You
can configure it to always show, though.


> - skype

Integrated into Kopete!


> - korganizer

Check!


> - kwallet

Check!


> - cpu monitor

Check, but you might want to comment here:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172312
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=191341
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=191342


> - infrared control

How did you do this in KDE 3?


> - powermanagement

Check!


> - keyboard

i plasma-widget-kbstate - A
plasma widget that shows the state of the modifier keys


> - screen management (xrandr interface)

Yes, built into System Settings.


> - krypt
>

http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Krypt?content=80641


> I forgot to mention that the keyboard froze after pressing ALT+F2 and
> switching language settings
>

Please, please comment on this bug:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205369


> A HUGE trouble I see is with the keyboard layout for my mother
> language "bulgarian"
> Who the hell have change the default keyboard layout for the phonetic setup?
> I've been using this for years now hen I press "W" I get seomthing
> different ..
> _THIS_ _IS_ _REALLY_ _ODD_ - _STUPID_ _MONKEYS_!
>

I don't speak Bulgarian, so I cannot reproduce. Please file a bug!


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From: deloptes on
Dotan Cohen wrote:

I'm going to write a list and post it here. ATM I can not start korganizer.
I have some time, so I would like to test 4.4.
Thanks for pointing me to known bugs. I really don't have the patience to
search.

>
> p kteatime -
> KDE 4 utility for making a fine cup of tea

yes, I can not live without a good cup of tea :-)

>
>> - weather
>
>
http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/yaWP+%28Yet+Another+Weather+Plasmoid%29?content=94106

This was not working in 4.3 and I couldn't start it in 4.4.

>
>
>> - moon
>
> Check!

agreed

>
>
>> - clock/calendar
>
> Check!

agreed

>
>
>> - wireless manager
>
> Knetworkmanager works, but I prefer wicd, which has integration in
> KDE's System Settings. It's in the system tray, not on the panel. You
> can configure it to always show, though.

I think I've seen this already, I'll test. thanks.

>
>
>> - skype
>
> Integrated into Kopete!
>
>
>> - korganizer
>
> Check!

it took at least 10min to start

>
>
>> - kwallet
>
> Check!
>
>
>> - cpu monitor
>
> Check, but you might want to comment here:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172312
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=191341
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=191342
>

I'll check, thanks

>
>> - infrared control
>
> How did you do this in KDE 3?

with klirc and lircd and modifying the kernel key map for my cinergy xxs
dvbt card ;-)

a big challenge was to setup the kde keys ... it's not very developed, but
the basic functionality works

>
>
>> - powermanagement
>
> Check!
>
>
>> - keyboard
>
> i plasma-widget-kbstate - A
> plasma widget that shows the state of the modifier keys

In kde3 the "idiots" didn't think of us poor people not using latin and
associated per default ALT+K to switch the keymap. Now if you switch from
english to rushian/bulgarian or whatever ALT+K gives a completely different
keycode ... So I had to always change this.

Now in kde4 it's even better. You have to click ... and no reasonable
language switching combination is working. In this point Windows wins, as
it's per default configured to switch languages when typing (left)ALT+SHIFT

>
>
>> - screen management (xrandr interface)
>
> Yes, built into System Settings.

yes but not working for me and everybody running i915 vga card. this is also
related to X-Server and the a**holes from intel. (don't judge me the
notebook was given to me from the company I'm working for :-( )

>
>
>> - krypt
>>
>
> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Krypt?content=80641

the question is if it is compiling in kde4? and also if it is working well

>
>
>> I forgot to mention that the keyboard froze after pressing ALT+F2 and
>> switching language settings
>>
>
> Please, please comment on this bug:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205369

The problem is that it was not iresponsive for just 10secs but forever.

>
>
>> A HUGE trouble I see is with the keyboard layout for my mother
>> language "bulgarian"
>> Who the hell have change the default keyboard layout for the phonetic
>> setup? I've been using this for years now hen I press "W" I get seomthing
>> different ..
>> _THIS_ _IS_ _REALLY_ _ODD_ - _STUPID_ _MONKEYS_!
>>
>
> I don't speak Bulgarian, so I cannot reproduce. Please file a bug!
>

I'll look to get a complete list. We'll have to discuss also the stuff we
don't need too.

this was my first impression. the conclusion is that it will stay unusable
for quite a long time yet.

your commitment is motivating me to do some testing ... may be it's time to
have some closer look at upcoming testing debian.

I'm still not that motivated as I would love to be, as I'm primary focused
on debian stable.

regards



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