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From: Richard Hartmann on 11 May 2010 17:30 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 22:02, deloptes <deloptes(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > In kde3 the "idiots" didn't think of us poor people not using latin and > associated per default ALT+K to switch the keymap. Now if you switch from > english to rushian/bulgarian or whatever ALT+K gives a completely different > keycode ... So I had to always change this. Maybe I don't understand what you mean, but I switch between English and German layout with ctrl-alt-k and have been doing so since early KDE 3 or late KDE 2. Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTila_PdPJhLX_Q0nsJG3GxVDN_EyHCzmLSV8dwqV(a)mail.gmail.com
From: deloptes on 11 May 2010 19:30 Richard Hartmann wrote: > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 22:02, deloptes <deloptes(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> In kde3 the "idiots" didn't think of us poor people not using latin and >> associated per default ALT+K to switch the keymap. Now if you switch from >> english to rushian/bulgarian or whatever ALT+K gives a completely >> different keycode ... So I had to always change this. > > Maybe I don't understand what you mean, but I switch between English and > German layout with ctrl-alt-k and have been doing so since early KDE 3 or > late KDE 2. > > Richard yes, exactly that's what I mean. the latin "k" has no equivalent in other languages (in terms of key code). Windows is doing this wisely since the beginning by setting the switch to ALT+SHIFT, which is language independent. I like the abbility to change things in kde, so I preffer to set it to ALT+CTRL+(richt arrow). In your case german "k" is equivalent to english "k" thus switch is working, for all people using latin. I don't know if it's working for greek or hebrew. If someone can report it would be interesting to know. regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/hscp3v$2lm$1(a)dough.gmane.org
From: deloptes on 11 May 2010 20:00 deloptes wrote: > I also think the 4.4 version is pretty usable and as soon as all > applications that I need are usable I will move to kde4. > Second impression is pretty good. For sure there are many small things to do but it looks and feels ok. I'll look forward to test and file bugs on it and try to get the environment I'm using now prepared for the move. What I was thinking of is that it would be better to test upgrades from lenny to squeeze and then to sid, because it's not only kde that's changing. I'll have to rebuild and retest the environment. Did someone know about a german festival version? I have some sources and it's always a pain to compile. regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/hscqe1$6e6$1(a)dough.gmane.org
From: Dotan Cohen on 12 May 2010 02:00 On 12 May 2010 02:26, deloptes <deloptes(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > yes, exactly that's what I mean. the latin "k" has no equivalent in other > languages (in terms of key code). Windows is doing this wisely since the > beginning by setting the switch to ALT+SHIFT, which is language > independent. I like the abbility to change things in kde, so I preffer to > set it to ALT+CTRL+(richt arrow). > In your case german "k" is equivalent to english "k" thus switch is working, > for all people using latin. I don't know if it's working for greek or > hebrew. If someone can report it would be interesting to know. > In Hebrew it's also problematic, that's why I switch to Capslock. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTilyXgG5n2xDWcLgDV-oaTsqRc-yFzcnJwweprlP(a)mail.gmail.com
From: deloptes on 12 May 2010 06:30
Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 11 May 2010 23:02, deloptes <deloptes(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> - weather >>> >> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/yaWP+%28Yet+Another+Weather+Plasmoid%29?content=94106 >> >> This was not working in 4.3 and I couldn't start it in 4.4. >> > > Interesting, it works on the Ubuntu box I test KDE on. > > >>>> - korganizer >>> >>> Check! >> >> it took at least 10min to start >> > > Wow. Any console output? > > >>>> - infrared control >>> >>> How did you do this in KDE 3? >> >> with klirc and lircd and modifying the kernel key map for my cinergy xxs >> dvbt card ;-) >> >> a big challenge was to setup the kde keys ... it's not very developed, >> but the basic functionality works >> > > Please, your input is needed here: > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=197885 > > >>> i plasma-widget-kbstate - A >>> plasma widget that shows the state of the modifier keys >> >> In kde3 the "idiots" didn't think of us poor people not using latin and >> associated per default ALT+K to switch the keymap. Now if you switch from >> english to rushian/bulgarian or whatever ALT+K gives a completely >> different keycode ... So I had to always change this. >> >> Now in kde4 it's even better. You have to click ... and no reasonable >> language switching combination is working. In this point Windows wins, as >> it's per default configured to switch languages when typing >> (left)ALT+SHIFT >> > > I switch between languages with the Capslock key. > עובד גם בעברית! > Работает тоже по Русский! > > >>>> - screen management (xrandr interface) >>> >>> Yes, built into System Settings. >> >> yes but not working for me and everybody running i915 vga card. this is >> also related to X-Server and the a**holes from intel. (don't judge me the >> notebook was given to me from the company I'm working for :-( ) >> > > I don't think that's a KDE issue, though. no but it's definitely an issue if you can not arrange your displays. > > >>> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Krypt?content=80641 >> >> the question is if it is compiling in kde4? and also if it is working >> well >> > > It's not a core or even supported app, I think. It's a third-party > app. I really can't help with that. yes, I know. I'll check ... I have about 10 application to recompile. > > >>>> I forgot to mention that the keyboard froze after pressing ALT+F2 and >>>> switching language settings >>> >>> Please, please comment on this bug: >>> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205369 >> >> The problem is that it was not iresponsive for just 10secs but forever. >> > > I see. Does that happen often, or only that once? For now it has happened twice ... it could be that I have installed/configured something after logging in the first time. What is happening permanently is that if I click the logout button the whole desktop freezes. I have to press CTRL+ALT+F[1-6] to restart kdm What I am missing now is also the old behavior from CTRL+ALT+DEL to get prompt for reboot or shutdown - or whatever. Now this combination is locking the screen. Was it adopted from newer windows? >> > > Thanks. It will stay unusable for you until you tell us what you need > to use it! That's what I'm here for. > Well, - kplayer was not working for DVB input. - korganizer does not start - kweather and kmoon are not visible (can not choose to activate), though it states it's installed. - ALL kde apps like kplayer/organizer and probably others start very slowly about 20-30secs to pop up I'm sorry but I can not test anything that fast. it will take few weeks. I will probably test upgrading (As I said) from lenny to squeeze to sid. To simulate an upgrade of my current system. I think this is more important. This will take a while, so my plan for now is to see what basically works and what not. regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/hsdvg7$dpm$1(a)dough.gmane.org |