From: Dr. Henri Wilson on
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:30:44 +0100, "George Dishman" <george(a)briar.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

>
>"Clueless Henri Wilson" <HW@....> wrote in message
>news:kjg3h35ok4vf1n6ik43dl2ga79s1q0o327(a)4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 17:27:08 +0100, "George Dishman"
>> <george(a)briar.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>When you realise Henry counts 11.2 over 424.4 degrees
>>>and 7.8 waves over 205.6 degrees, you might understand
>>>what he is trying to do. With a bit more help from me,
>>>you might even understand why his approach is never
>>>going to work.
>>
>> It DOES work....and it produces the right answer..
>
>It gives you the answer you WANT. It isn't the CORRECT
>answer, you need to learn how an interferometer works.
>Start with the applet and instructions in my other post
>and I'll try to educate you when you immediately leap
>to the wrong conclusion.

George, the path lengths are different..and change with rotation speed.
At constant speed, no matter what that speed is, the fringe pattern is the same
and static......and the number of waves between the source and detector is the
same in both paths and constant.

The two path lengths change and fringes move during an acceleration. This is
due to the fact that photons and their 'wavelengths' shrink or expand during an
acceleration. The movement is monitored. In iFoGs there is a constant
integration over very short time intervals to turn current fringe displacement
into total angle turned.

I know you wont be able to understand any of this until I demonstrate it. An
animation is on the way.

>George




Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)

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From: Dr. Henri Wilson on
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 02:04:29 GMT, "Androcles" <Engineer(a)hogwarts.physics>
wrote:

>
>"Dr. Henri Wilson" <HW@....> wrote in message
>news:ud45h39lggnklkiuo2jrbm1ojtrh9s33jo(a)4ax.com...
>: On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 00:12:33 GMT, "Androcles" <Engineer(a)hogwarts.physics>
>: wrote:

>: >You pair of idiots cannot count and are oh-so-easy to fool.
>: > http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tickfairy.gif
>: >How many teeth on each wheel?
>:
>: The path lengths are 2piR+/-vt.
>
>The path lengths are (2pi+/-alpha)R, no t needed for length, Einstein
>Dingleberry.

Same thing, fool....

>You pair of idiots cannot count and are oh-so-easy to fool.
> http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tickfairy.gif
>How many teeth on each wheel?
>
>: The difference in number of wavelengths is 4Aw/cLambda.
>: The difference in number of wavelengths is called tick fairies.
>:
>: That is the correct answer,....backed by experiment.
>
>That is the wrong answer, backed by engineers installing
>equipment in aircraft.
>You pair of idiots cannot count and are oh-so-easy to fool.
> http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tickfairy.gif
>How many teeth on each wheel?
>
>: Nobody cares what you and George think. Nature just works this way.
>
>No airline pilot cares what you say, his wings don't rely on tick fairies
>or Einstein Dingleberries.
>
>
>



Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)

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From: Dr. Henri Wilson on
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:35:01 +0100, "George Dishman" <george(a)briar.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

>
>"Dr. Henri Wilson" <HW@....> wrote in message
>news:gff2h3t1b7usrumct7fq6ae36bdql9fbsl(a)4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 22:21:51 +0100, "George Dishman"

>
>But the angles between the emission and detection points
>aren't 2 pi radians in ewither direction. Why are you
>arguing Henry, I am trying explain to Andy why _you_ are
>_right_?
>
>>> http://www.georgedishman.f2s.com/Henri/SameWavelength.png
>>>
>>>Or you can count from the yellow dot to the
>>>green dot:
>>>
>>> http://www.georgedishman.f2s.com/Henri/NumberOfWaves.png
>>>
>>> lambda_blue =(2pi + alpha)R / 11.2
>>> lambda_red = (2pi - alpha)R / 7.8
>>>
>>>You get the same wavelength by either method.
>
>Get it yet?
>
>"You get the same wavelength by either method."
>
>I am saying your claim is _correct_ so stop and
>_think_ before disagreeing!

I'm basicaly disagreeing with him.
...but I disagree with you on other counts...

>George
>
>



Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)

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From: Dr. Henri Wilson on
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 02:13:17 GMT, "Androcles" <Engineer(a)hogwarts.physics>
wrote:

>
>"Dr. Henri Wilson" <HW@....> wrote in message
>news:gm45h3pr7l2tb65fdeu0mh5jubgsredo4k(a)4ax.com...
>: On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 00:12:34 GMT, "Androcles" <Engineer(a)hogwarts.physics>
>: wrote:

>: >: >
>: >: > http://www.georgedishman.f2s.com/Henri/SameWavelength.png
>: >:
>: >: George, the emission point is the yellow line.
>: >
>: >You pair of imbeciles cannot count.
>: > http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tickfairy.gif
>: >How many teeth in each wheel?
>:
>: You have to count from the emission point to the detector...
>
>Go on, then, do it. Quit running your mouth and prove you can
>count.
>How many teeth on each wheel have I drawn?

The number of wavelengths between source and detector is constant at any fixed
speed.
The number of wavelengths in each path (between emission point and detector)
varies with speed.



Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)

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From: Androcles on

"Dr. Henri Wilson" <HW@....> wrote in message
news:s4p7h39a72620t75lbocnajfafgm7v6u97(a)4ax.com...
: On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 02:04:29 GMT, "Androcles" <Engineer(a)hogwarts.physics>
: wrote:
:
: >
: >"Dr. Henri Wilson" <HW@....> wrote in message
: >news:ud45h39lggnklkiuo2jrbm1ojtrh9s33jo(a)4ax.com...
: >: On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 00:12:33 GMT, "Androcles"
<Engineer(a)hogwarts.physics>
: >: wrote:
:
: >: >You pair of idiots cannot count and are oh-so-easy to fool.
: >: > http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tickfairy.gif
: >: >How many teeth on each wheel?
: >:
: >: The path lengths are 2piR+/-vt.
: >
: >The path lengths are (2pi+/-alpha)R, no t needed for length, Einstein
: >Dingleberry.
:
: Same thing, fool....


"There are about 13 waves in the blue and 6 in the red." --Wilson, 12 Oct
2007.

"George, the path lengths are different..and change with rotation speed.
At constant speed, no matter what that speed is, the fringe pattern is the
same and static......and the number of waves between the source and detector
is
the same in both paths and constant." -- Wilson, 15 Oct 2007.

"That's the kind of argument I'd expect from a desperate
person....completely out of ideas... ahahahaha!" -- Wilson.

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How many teeth on each wheel?

:
: >You pair of idiots cannot count and are oh-so-easy to fool.
: > http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tickfairy.gif
: >How many teeth on each wheel?
: >
: >: The difference in number of wavelengths is 4Aw/cLambda.
: >: The difference in number of wavelengths is called tick fairies.
: >:
: >: That is the correct answer,....backed by experiment.
: >
: >That is the wrong answer, backed by engineers installing
: >equipment in aircraft.
: >You pair of idiots cannot count and are oh-so-easy to fool.
: > http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tickfairy.gif
: >How many teeth on each wheel?
: >
: >: Nobody cares what you and George think. Nature just works this way.
: >
: >No airline pilot cares what you say, his wings don't rely on tick fairies
: >or Einstein Dingleberries.
: >
: >
: >
:
:
:
: Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)
:
: www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm