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From: Jim on 22 Jan 2010 09:25 On 2010-01-22, Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: > > Recently you have been posting threads throwing abuse at him too though, > and that is no more useful than him when he is throwing abuse at you. It > makes it hard to find anything in the group. Sometimes you really just > have to ignore it. [Nod]. Jim -- http://www.ursaMinorBeta.co.uk http://twitter.com/GreyAreaUK "Get over here. Now. Might be advisable to wear brown trousers and a shirt the colour of blood." Malcolm Tucker, "The Thick of It"
From: James Jolley on 22 Jan 2010 09:26 On 2010-01-22 14:20:36 +0000, Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> said: > On 22/01/2010 13:54, James Jolley wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm sending this because of the spat in the other thread regarding >> macsoup's accessibility. Yes, "he" derailed the thread again, but more >> importantly i'm actually frightened to use the words blind, visually >> impaired, etc, in case I am excluding other disability groups. > > Don't worry, that sounded as daft to me as it did to you > >> In short, >> i've got no confidence to post. He has wone, I really can't be arsed. > > Don't let it get to you like that. Just treat him like the nutter in > the corner. He might swear and rock around a lot but he isn't going to > do any real damage > >> The attacks he has posted on me are completely unfair and i'm genuinely >> worried about posting here again with regards to anything disability >> related. > > I found some of your posts really useful. As a software engineer > working with user interfaces (and recently having done UIs as part of > my degree), I am very interested in usability and accessibility issues > as although they are covered, they are not covered in depth and it is > another thing to consider. I have probably not considered it as much as > I should have, as most of my software is 'blind excluded' in that it is > to assist you to do things that you wouldn't be able to do if you were > blind, but I also write little games for fun, and probably some phone > software too some point and that can benefit. > >> As I've already said in that thread, i'm not in this for my own ends. >> I've always maintained a good outlook as regards disability awareness. >> I've promoted OS X to various groups of people. >> >> Look, i'm not sure what to do at all, his attacks have shocked me. > > To be honest, the best advice he gave you himself, to kill-file him > (hopefully your killfile is better than his as his seems to not work > well). You cannot reason with him, even when you really think you > could, it doesn't work. Trust me to really know how it is, hence new > years resolution of not getting into threads with him when he is off on > one (ie, normally). > > Recently you have been posting threads throwing abuse at him too > though, and that is no more useful than him when he is throwing abuse > at you. It makes it hard to find anything in the group. Sometimes you > really just have to ignore it. All points taken. If you ever need someone to check over your UI design, feel free to get in touch any time. Best -JAmes-
From: T i m on 22 Jan 2010 09:29 On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:01:08 +0000, Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: >I can only speak for myself, but I've always found your viewpoints on Mac >accessibility to be informative. Likewise. Not being disabled (apart from the obvious lack of social skills of course) and not having anyone in my friends / family group who disabled I often forget how others have to deal with the things most of us take for granted. The Mrs is currently working as a carer in a 'Care Home' (and she loves it) but some of her stories 'remind one' about what various groups have to go through (50% of the 60+ residents are in the Dementia wing). It's also good to know their site was just independently vetted and they scored 97%, the highest rating awarded for a long time apparently. They lost points because they didn't serve the dinner veg in separate bowls for the residents to choose for themselves .... [1] 'Keep on postin' James. ;-) T i m [1] Remembering some of the said residents will wrap up said veg in napkins to take back to their rooms to give to their dog / budgie / visitor (that only exist in their minds of course).
From: Woody on 22 Jan 2010 09:33 On 22/01/2010 14:29, T i m wrote: > It's also good to know their site was just independently vetted and > they scored 97%, the highest rating awarded for a long time > apparently. They lost points because they didn't serve the dinner veg > in separate bowls for the residents to choose for themselves .... [1] They better get that sorted before I get there. I sure don't want to still have to manually pick round the veg when I am mad(der) -- Woody
From: James Dore on 22 Jan 2010 09:36
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 13:54:02 -0000, James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm sending this because of the spat in the other thread regarding > macsoup's accessibility. Yes, "he" derailed the thread again, but more > importantly i'm actually frightened to use the words blind, visually > impaired, etc, in case I am excluding other disability groups. In short, > i've got no confidence to post. He has wone, I really can't be arsed. > The attacks he has posted on me are completely unfair and i'm genuinely > worried about posting here again with regards to anything disability > related. > > As I've already said in that thread, i'm not in this for my own ends. > I've always maintained a good outlook as regards disability awareness. > I've promoted OS X to various groups of people. > > Look, i'm not sure what to do at all, his attacks have shocked me. > > Best > > -James- > Keep posting. All posts are valued, unless they get argumentative. Since this usually happens when a thread gets more than six posts deep, I tend only to follow the initial postings. There are argumentative d*ckh*ads on all sides, but ignoring them just requires discipline (or a very busy work schedule :-) Cheers, -- James Dore New College IT Officer james.dore(a)new / it-support(a)new |