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From: James Dore on 22 Jan 2010 09:39 On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:06:31 -0000, James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com> wrote: > On 2010-01-22 14:01:39 +0000, Jochem Huhmann <joh(a)gmx.net> said: > >> James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com> writes: >> >>> Look, i'm not sure what to do at all, his attacks have shocked me. >> Not only you, be assured. Don't take it personally and ignore him, he's >> just attacking everyone. >> Jochem > > That's fair enough. I think my issue is that i'm very sensative to > things generally. I'm so close to this accessibility business that I > take criticism to be a personal insult. > > The sad thing is that the guy was initially interested and dialogue was > fine until something snapped. I admit to dishing it back, but sometimes > you just plainly can't help it. Yep. Totally understandable, but seriously, best not to get involved. Map Cmd-W to 'WhatEver....' > Thanks for the reply and it's appreciated. > > Best > > -JAmes- > -- James Dore New College IT Officer james.dore(a)new / it-support(a)new
From: Rowland McDonnell on 22 Jan 2010 09:40 Jochem Huhmann <joh(a)gmx.net> wrote: > James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com> writes: > > > Look, i'm not sure what to do at all, his attacks have shocked me. > > Not only you, be assured. I'd like to point out that all I've wanted James to do is: Stop attacking me. Make the point that when he writes `accessibility' he means `accessibility for the blind'. I don't know why he keeps attacking me so viciously and maliciously. And I've certainly not attacked him unprovoked - although I'll admit I've defended myself against James's appalling malice against me. > Don't take it personally and ignore him, he's > just attacking everyone. Does the fact that I'm getting personal abuse here not bother you Jochem? It's okay for *me* to be criticized, but if I dare do that to anyone else, it's `he's just attacking everyone'? I call that hypocrisy. James Jolley is for example attacking me and has been doing so for weeks. Why do you not censure him? Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Jim on 22 Jan 2010 09:46 On 2010-01-22, Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > To remind everyone: all this came about because I wanted James to write > `accessibility for the blind' instead of `accessibility' so as not to > exclude those with other disabilities. I'd actually be surprised if most people here didn't already know that that's exactly what he means - I see no reason that he should have to spell it out in full each and every time. Put it this way: how would you feel if people started insisting that you start out each and every one of your posts with a disclaimer that you have mental health issues? Pretty annoyed, I'm guessing. Jim :wq:wq:wq:wqbugger -- http://www.ursaMinorBeta.co.uk http://twitter.com/GreyAreaUK "Get over here. Now. Might be advisable to wear brown trousers and a shirt the colour of blood." Malcolm Tucker, "The Thick of It"
From: James Jolley on 22 Jan 2010 09:50 On 2010-01-22 14:46:26 +0000, Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> said: > On 2010-01-22, Rowland McDonnell > <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: >> >> To remind everyone: all this came about because I wanted James to write >> `accessibility for the blind' instead of `accessibility' so as not to >> exclude those with other disabilities. > > I'd actually be surprised if most people here didn't already know that > that's exactly what he means - I see no reason that he should have to spell > it out in full each and every time. > > Put it this way: how would you feel if people started insisting that you > start out each and every one of your posts with a disclaimer that you have > mental health issues? Pretty annoyed, I'm guessing. > > Jim > :wq:wq:wq:wqbugger Yes, quite. In any case, much of OS X's accessibility spills over anyway. For instance, assistiveware at www.assistiveware.com write many accessibility solutions for those using switches and other input devices. They rely on the same sort of frameworks VOiceOver uses. I'm not going to cry blind every time someone posts. Surely, VoiceOver's mention is enough. I'm really quite amazed at the efforts Apple included to make they're frameworks usable for other developers, hense the macsoup discussion. I didn't realise that program was as old as it is, and I at least understand that it's usability won't improve. Best -JAmes-
From: Jim on 22 Jan 2010 09:57
On 2010-01-22, James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com> wrote: > > I'm really quite amazed at the efforts Apple included to make they're > frameworks usable for other developers, hense the macsoup discussion. I > didn't realise that program was as old as it is, and I at least > understand that it's usability won't improve. MacSOUP is, in some ways, a *very* frustrating programme. It's far and away the best newsreader I've ever used, on any platform, but it's really showing its age in many areas. I wish Stefan could find the time and inclination to re-write it in Cocoa. I'd certainly be willing to re-purchase it. The Gods alone know I've got my money's worth out of it. Jim -- http://www.ursaMinorBeta.co.uk http://twitter.com/GreyAreaUK "Get over here. Now. Might be advisable to wear brown trousers and a shirt the colour of blood." Malcolm Tucker, "The Thick of It" |