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From: Don Klipstein on 31 Jan 2010 01:54 In article <7sjttsFovhU1(a)mid.individual.net>, Joerg wrote: >John Larkin wrote: >> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 05:58:42 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" >> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >> >>> No damn way! >>> >>> It's 21 degrees in Ocala right now and expected to get colder. They are >>> forecasting some snow, and this may become one of the longest cold >>> spells on record with another cold front headed this way. >> >> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/7111525/UN-climate-change-panel-based-claims-on-student-dissertation-and-magazine-article.html >> >> http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/01/28/save-rainforest-climate-change-scandal-chopped-facts/ >> > >Then there's this, and atmospheric scientist John Christy comes across >as a fairly level-headed and honest guy: > > http://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/environment/ >a-critical-perspective-on-climategate/0 > >Quote "Readings taken at the surface show 0.16 or 0.17 degrees of >warming per decade�a bit more than the microwave readings. That may not >seem such a great difference, but climate models indicate that if >greenhouse gases are causing this warming, the upper atmosphere ought to >be warming by about 1.2 times that of the surface, not less." > >It seems things are unraveling at a faster clip than I thought was >possible ... Except that increase of greenhouse gases increases radiational cooling of uppermost levels of the atmosphere where greenhouse gas increase is significant. This would increase the "lapse rate", which is how much temperature varies inversely with altitude up to the tropopause, which has been the case. <SNIP signature portion and probably little else> -- - Don Klipstein (don(a)misty.com)
From: John Larkin on 31 Jan 2010 18:03 On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 06:54:15 +0000 (UTC), don(a)manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein) wrote: >In article <7sjttsFovhU1(a)mid.individual.net>, Joerg wrote: >>John Larkin wrote: >>> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 05:58:42 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" >>> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >>> >>>> No damn way! >>>> >>>> It's 21 degrees in Ocala right now and expected to get colder. They are >>>> forecasting some snow, and this may become one of the longest cold >>>> spells on record with another cold front headed this way. >>> >>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/7111525/UN-climate-change-panel-based-claims-on-student-dissertation-and-magazine-article.html >>> >>> http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/01/28/save-rainforest-climate-change-scandal-chopped-facts/ >>> >> >>Then there's this, and atmospheric scientist John Christy comes across >>as a fairly level-headed and honest guy: >> >> http://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/environment/ >>a-critical-perspective-on-climategate/0 This sounds like a very sensible and very decent person. I suggested here that we may just be recovering from the LIA, and Sloman didn't like the idea. He will predictably accuse Christy of being in the pay of ExxonMobil. John
From: Uwe Hercksen on 1 Feb 2010 06:23 Michael A. Terrell schrieb: > Sigh. Do you know where Ocala is? Or that the entire region used to > be full of citrus groves? Maybe you missed that they all froze out and > died, after 150 years? Do you know 'anything' other than politically > motivated BS? Do you ever think for yourself? Hello, we got here the coldest winter since 32 years with very much snow at the shore of the baltic sea, a region with very few snow normally. So wait for the winters of the next decades, if most of them are very cold you may talk of the end of global warming. But only one weather extreme in an area with normally very warm winters is not at all a global climate change. Bye
From: Jitt on 1 Feb 2010 11:25 In article <7snrthFsccU1(a)mid.dfncis.de>, hercksen(a)mew.uni- erlangen.de says... > > > Michael A. Terrell schrieb: > > > Sigh. Do you know where Ocala is? Or that the entire region used to > > be full of citrus groves? Maybe you missed that they all froze out and > > died, after 150 years? Do you know 'anything' other than politically > > motivated BS? Do you ever think for yourself? > > Hello, > > we got here the coldest winter since 32 years with very much snow at the > shore of the baltic sea, a region with very few snow normally. > And in B.C., Canada, the warmest January ever recorded. Oh, well --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news(a)netfront.net ---
From: Joerg on 1 Feb 2010 11:44
John Larkin wrote: > On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 06:54:15 +0000 (UTC), don(a)manx.misty.com (Don > Klipstein) wrote: > >> In article <7sjttsFovhU1(a)mid.individual.net>, Joerg wrote: >>> John Larkin wrote: >>>> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 05:58:42 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" >>>> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> No damn way! >>>>> >>>>> It's 21 degrees in Ocala right now and expected to get colder. They are >>>>> forecasting some snow, and this may become one of the longest cold >>>>> spells on record with another cold front headed this way. >>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/7111525/UN-climate-change-panel-based-claims-on-student-dissertation-and-magazine-article.html >>>> >>>> http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/01/28/save-rainforest-climate-change-scandal-chopped-facts/ >>>> >>> Then there's this, and atmospheric scientist John Christy comes across >>> as a fairly level-headed and honest guy: >>> >>> http://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/environment/ >>> a-critical-perspective-on-climategate/0 > > This sounds like a very sensible and very decent person. > > I suggested here that we may just be recovering from the LIA, and > Sloman didn't like the idea. He will predictably accuse Christy of > being in the pay of ExxonMobil. > I am waiting for the day when he claims that the bible was influenced by ExxonMobil :-) -- SCNR, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM. |