From: Rowland McDonnell on
jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> >>
> >> All Mac viruses are purely imaginary.
> >
> > Aside from the ones that are not, of course - and there are many such.
>
> There are certainly a few -Trojans- around, but I'm not aware of any
> viruses.

There are quite a lot of MacOS viruses. I've often stated that there
are no /MacOS X/ viruses.

> Could you give an example of a piece of OS X malware that's capable of
> self-replication and media/network transmission? (although the latter
> would technically be a worm, not a virus)

As I've often stated, there are no MacOS X viruses, so why ask me for
that?

Rowland.

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From: Jim on
On 2010-06-03, Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
> jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:
>
>> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> >>
>> >> All Mac viruses are purely imaginary.
>> >
>> > Aside from the ones that are not, of course - and there are many such.
>>
>> There are certainly a few -Trojans- around, but I'm not aware of any
>> viruses.
>
> There are quite a lot of MacOS viruses. I've often stated that there
> are no /MacOS X/ viruses.

Ok, but given that OS X has been the main focus of Apple's OS drive for the
last, what, decade, then forgive me if I don't consider obsolete OSs as
being relevant. The fact that some people are still using them is neither
here nor there.

If someone says "MacOS" when talking about current day events then I'm going
to assume Mac OS X. If people mean otherwise they should say so because the
older Mac OSs are out of context now.

Jim
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From: Rowland McDonnell on
Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
> > jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> All Mac viruses are purely imaginary.
> >> >
> >> > Aside from the ones that are not, of course - and there are many such.
> >>
> >> There are certainly a few -Trojans- around, but I'm not aware of any
> >> viruses.
> >
> > There are quite a lot of MacOS viruses. I've often stated that there
> > are no /MacOS X/ viruses.
>
> Ok, but given that OS X has been the main focus of Apple's OS drive for the
> last, what, decade, then forgive me if I don't consider obsolete OSs as
> being relevant. The fact that some people are still using them is neither
> here nor there.

The fact that people are using them is part of the point as far as I'm
concerned.

It makes viruses on pre MacOS X a matter of relevance to those people on
daily basis - it's a current, existing potential threat. Not a very big
one, but for someone like you who worries about the trivial risk of us
being annihiliated by space aliens, you should surely be taking this one
seriously?

> If someone says "MacOS" when talking about current day events then I'm going
> to assume Mac OS X. If people mean otherwise they should say so because the
> older Mac OSs are out of context now.

If I say `MacOS', I mean the whole kit and caboodle. If I want to talk
about MacOS X only, I'll specify MacOS X so as to eliminate ambiguity.

I think that your way of doing things is unneccessarily ambiguous.

Rowland.

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From: Jim on
On 2010-06-03, Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> Ok, but given that OS X has been the main focus of Apple's OS drive for the
>> last, what, decade, then forgive me if I don't consider obsolete OSs as
>> being relevant. The fact that some people are still using them is neither
>> here nor there.
>
> The fact that people are using them is part of the point as far as I'm
> concerned.

Not to me, not in this context.

> It makes viruses on pre MacOS X a matter of relevance to those people on
> daily basis - it's a current, existing potential threat. Not a very big
> one, but for someone like you who worries about the trivial risk of us
> being annihiliated by space aliens, you should surely be taking this one
> seriously?

I'm not at all worried about being wiped out by space aliens, Rowland.

>> If someone says "MacOS" when talking about current day events then I'm going
>> to assume Mac OS X. If people mean otherwise they should say so because the
>> older Mac OSs are out of context now.
>
> If I say `MacOS', I mean the whole kit and caboodle. If I want to talk
> about MacOS X only, I'll specify MacOS X so as to eliminate ambiguity.
>
> I think that your way of doing things is unneccessarily ambiguous.

And I think your way is. Saying just Mac OS, in this context, whein you mean
'Mac OS 9 or below' is ambiguous. To me.

Jim
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>
> The fact that people are using them is part of the point as far as I'm
> concerned.
>
> It makes viruses on pre MacOS X a matter of relevance to those people on
> daily basis - it's a current, existing potential threat.

yep, their problem, same as my friend with a BBC computer
if he doesn't want to move in to the 21st centruy fine.

> Not a very big
> one, but for someone like you who worries about the trivial risk of us
> being annihiliated by space aliens, you should surely be taking this one
> seriously?

Are there other types of aliens other than space ones ?

>
>> If someone says "MacOS" when talking about current day events then I'm
>> going
>> to assume Mac OS X. If people mean otherwise they should say so because
>> the
>> older Mac OSs are out of context now.
>
> If I say `MacOS', I mean the whole kit and caboodle. If I want to talk
> about MacOS X only, I'll specify MacOS X so as to eliminate ambiguity.
>
> I think that your way of doing things is unneccessarily ambiguous.

Well I do think that refering to decades old software as if it's on the
market
shelves today is missleading. I'm also not sure what a Mac OS is
I can run linux and windows on my Mac.

It's a bit like saying cholera is a serious desease in London.



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