From: Ben Shimmin on
Tim Streater <timstreater(a)waitrose.com>:
> In article
> <1jjm6ss.ln6nsk1b7hvn1N%real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid>,
> real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
>> Seriously, Tim, you need to stop yelling at me and look to your own self
>> for a solution to the problems you are suffering.
>
> I'm not suffering from any problems - not at least of the variety under
> discussion. You on the other hand drop into aggressive behaviour WITH
> EVERY POSTER HERE eventually. And yet you seem unable to see this
> MASSIVE CLUE as a pointer to the fact that its YOU that has the problem.
>
> And yet you allege you have scientific training. The mind boggles.

I think Rowland has a fair point. Engaging in endless and protracted
discussion on usenet with someone you know (and we all know) is two
sandwiches short of a picnic certainly suggests you have a problem --
though it may only be so serious a one as having too much free time!

b.

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From: Rowland McDonnell on
Tim Streater <timstreater(a)waitrose.com> wrote:

>
> > Seriously, Tim, you need to stop yelling at me and look to your own self
> > for a solution to the problems you are suffering.
>
> I'm not suffering from any problems

Yes, angry denial of that nature is quite normal for people with mental
health problems such as yourself.

Please, Tim, you need to address your serious behavioural problems: they
clearly exist for real, and you need to start by admitting that you have
them.

> - not at least of the variety under
> discussion. You on the other hand drop into aggressive behaviour WITH
> EVERY POSTER HERE eventually. And yet you seem unable to see this
> MASSIVE CLUE as a pointer to the fact that its YOU that has the problem.
>
> And yet you allege you have scientific training. The mind boggles.

You see? All you can do is deny everything and rage on abusively when I
point out gently that you need help.

It's a classic pattern.

You need help, Tim, really you do.

Rowland.

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From: Rowland McDonnell on
Ben Shimmin <bas(a)llamaselector.com> wrote:

> Tim Streater <timstreater(a)waitrose.com>:
[snip]
> > And yet you allege you have scientific training. The mind boggles.

And yet you are lying about me (again) for the purposes of abusing me:
you have insulted me because you want to upset me and provoke me to go
off on one again.

A shame that you don't seem able to see the faults in your own
behaviour.

Can you /really/ not understand that your behaviour here is grossly
improper?

If you *really* cannot see that, then you *REALLY* need to get some
help.

btw, you know very well that I have never alleged that I possess
scientific training.

I possess a scientific education - far superior to `training'. And it's
no mere allegation, I've got the degree certificates (yeah, plural) to
prove it.

> I think Rowland has a fair point. Engaging in endless and protracted
> discussion on usenet with someone you know (and we all know) is two
> sandwiches short of a picnic certainly suggests you have a problem --
> though it may only be so serious a one as having too much free time!

Quite.

I'm here for the technical stuff. You all know that I react badly to
personal abuse in part because of some very common mental health
problems that I suffer from[1] - which are not of a nature that could
reasonably be used to classify me as the `nutter' as that senile old
fart Peter Ceresole likes to insult me.

Some people here seem to like winding me up with personal abuse because
they like to make ill people suffer.

That's sick.

Rowland.

[1] Anxiety and depression, with a touch of Asperger's syndrome. I am
*OFFICIALLY* classified as suffering from such mild mental health
problems that I do not need treatment, according to the local NHS
authorities. I've got the letter here. (okay, it's just an excuse to
save money in the short term by denying me services, but I've been
diagnosed time and time again as *NOT* suffering from any form of
problematic delusions, or schizophrenia, or psychosis, or any of the
things which are classified as `serious mental health problems' by the
officical classification methods).

The official diagnosis, let me remind you, states that my mental health
problems are such that I'm NOT a nutter - even though Peter Ceresole
insists that I am. That's what the official medical specialists who
have actually assessed me state.

And yet Peter Ceresole thinks that he knows so much more than the
doctors who have assessed me, despite the fact that he's got no
education or training or experience in the field of mental health care.
Well, one of Peter or me is displaying an inability to understand the
limits of his own abilities and knowledge, and I don't think it's me.

P.S. Since Peter Ceresole thinks that it's perfectly polite of him to
abuse me by calling me a `nutter' or worse, I think that I should point
out that as far as I'm concerned, he's definitely a senile old fart. In
context, there is certainly no way Peter could reasonable object to that
being an insult, not if he thinks it's okay to deride me as a `nutter'
on a routine basis, the silly old fool that he is. Maybe he should be
thinking of having his net connection taken away from him when he's
moved to the old folks home, which he clearly needs sooner rather than
later?

P.P.S Of course, Peter, you might think that I'm not being kind to you.
If so, you might consider stopping hurling abuse at me.

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From: Richard Kettlewell on
Ben Shimmin <bas(a)llamaselector.com> writes:
> I think Rowland has a fair point. Engaging in endless and protracted
> discussion on usenet with someone you know (and we all know) is two
> sandwiches short of a picnic certainly suggests you have a problem --
> though it may only be so serious a one as having too much free time!

I wish the lot of them would killfile each other and save the rest of us
the noise.

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From: Rowland McDonnell on
Richard Kettlewell <rjk(a)greenend.org.uk> wrote:

> Ben Shimmin <bas(a)llamaselector.com> writes:
> > I think Rowland has a fair point. Engaging in endless and protracted
> > discussion on usenet with someone you know (and we all know) is two
> > sandwiches short of a picnic certainly suggests you have a problem --
> > though it may only be so serious a one as having too much free time!
>
> I wish the lot of them would killfile each other and save the rest of us
> the noise.

FWIW, I've killfiled those who only insult me and never give me any
useful information.

I don't understand why they have to keep on insulting me if it's not
just because they take pleasure from mocking the afflicted.

Rowland.

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