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From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on 22 Jan 2010 14:27 On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:07:55 +0000, Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: >On 2010-01-22, whisky-dave <whisky-dave(a)final.front.ear> wrote: >>> >>> The HSE says that it is totally unneccessary to put a notice on a knife >>> explaining that it's sharp and might cut you. >> >> That seems reasonable, but a maker of knives might do, in the same way >> I see packets of peanuts labled "contains nuts" > >Which is odd, as they're actually legumes. Not odd at all - most peanuts are packaged at facilities that also handle nuts. Some people are allergic to nuts. Others to peanuts, but they wouldn't be buying bags of peanuts. Similarly you sometimes get warnings on nutless/legumeless chocolate bars that they might contain one or both. Cheers - Jaimie -- "The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them into it in the first place." - Douglas Adams
From: Pd on 22 Jan 2010 15:44 Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > I've met people who've got away with all sorts of dodgy stuff. Well, if > I give 'em half a chance, gremlins clobber me badly. I don't do it the > dodgy way whatever `it' is because of that. I get clobbered, if > anyone's going to get clobbered. People get clobbered this way, so I > will be, so... Excellent - you can be our OSX virus canary then. -- Pd
From: Rowland McDonnell on 23 Jan 2010 02:55 T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote: > > >Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: > > > >> whisky-dave <whisky-dave(a)final.front.ear> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> The HSE says that it is totally unneccessary to put a notice on a knife > >> >> explaining that it's sharp and might cut you. > >> > > >> > That seems reasonable, but a maker of knives might do, in the same way > >> > I see packets of peanuts labled "contains nuts" > > > >Exactly so - it's not the HSE that's the problem and it's not H&S law > >that's the problem, it's the idiots getting it wrong that are the > >problem. > > Hang on, isn't that what I was saying? Not that I could tell. You've attacked the HSE itself and that's what it was all about, I thought: you complaining about health and safety culture, which is complaining about health and safety legislation and complaining about the fact that it's enforced for the benefit of all by HSE inspectors such as my late father in law. > >And there is a problem - but caused by a failure to understand the point > >of health and safety, not by the actual health and safety culture at > >all. It's caused by paranoid moronic middle management culture and > >cancerous compensation culture and such other aspects of `modern life'. > > And that! It's a cause and effect. People have been hurting themselves > and claiming compensation way before HSE existed. You've failed to follow me. Not in the modern sense, not at all - assuming we're talking about the factory inspectorate, which was re-branded the HSE in, erm, the 1970s IIRC. Before the factory inspectorate was set up, workplace injuries were entirely a private issue for who sustained them. Before certain legal judgements in the early 20th century, modern compensation culture was impossible in the UK due to our legal system. >Because it was > costing industry a lot of money they tried to tighten it all up so > people down the line could be held responsible for their actions. Erm. It took the Factories Acts to make them sit up and take notice - it was the health&safety culture that forced industry to tighten up. Special health and safety legislation was needed, you see. And it wasn't `the people down the line' who got held responsible for their actions - it was the people at the top, the management, who got nailed for causing the mine distaster or whatever it was that killed the workers. It wasn't until the H&S culture was introduced by parliament and the factory inspectorate going round enforcing the rules that such activity became possible. It was the introduction of health and safety legislation and the HSE (under its original name the Factory Inspectorate) which was the tipping point, giving workers some bloody chance of surviving their career in one piece. And one way it did that was by *imprisoning* managers in some cases - sod fines, they only apply to the firm, it's an Ltd, so you get 'em behind bars if you can in some cases. You see, it was the introduction of this health and safety culture in the 19th century that made the changes. >This > hasn't stopped the 'accidents' nor the compensation of course but we > are now clearer who to stick the blame on. Eh? The right to claim compensation for injuries suffered is a principle of English law so old and basic that it's not written down anywhere. It's older than the Norman invasion, that one - but it didn't apply to workplace accidents and other things until laws were introduced to do that in the 19th and 20th centuries and we *need* these laws. > >> Which is odd, as they're actually legumes. > > > >Legumes which just appen to be associated with causing the sorts of > >allergies caused by real nuts... Legumes which are so much like nuts > >that they're even called `pea /nuts/' so you get the idea... > > As an asside, do you work for Mars chocolates by any chance? What an odd question - no, I don't, but why ask? > My daughter bought a bag of Revels a while back and ate something that > made her mouth swell up just like peanuts (and only peanuts) do. > > She emailed them telling them what happened and including a photo of > the half chewed nut but they said it was impossible? They do that. They're lying, obviously. > (She said) It looked like a peanut, tasted like a peanut and caused a > reaction that only a peanut (so far) would but apparently it couldn't > be a peanut? Revels have peanuts in 'em, don't they? Been many years since I ate any, mind. > I wonder how long ago they replaced peanuts with raisin and what the > chance of one (peanut) randomly dropping out of the system was? I've no idea at all. I've no idea what this has to do with heath and safety anything. Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Rowland McDonnell on 23 Jan 2010 02:55 Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote: > Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: > > > whisky-dave <whisky-dave(a)final.front.ear> wrote: > >>> > >>> The HSE says that it is totally unneccessary to put a notice on a knife > >>> explaining that it's sharp and might cut you. > >> > >> That seems reasonable, but a maker of knives might do, in the same way > >> I see packets of peanuts labled "contains nuts" > > > >Which is odd, as they're actually legumes. > > Not odd at all - most peanuts are packaged at facilities that also > handle nuts. Really? I thought that most peanuts were handled by large facilities dedicated to peanuts, given the way peanuts are produced. Do you have some sort of source for your claim? > Some people are allergic to nuts. Others to peanuts, but they wouldn't > be buying bags of peanuts. Peanuts cause nut allergies. Look it up - I've explained already. I've suffered from a very very mild peanut/nut allergy. Careful investigation seems to indicate that at least part of the allergenic response is caused by something lurking on the outside of the nuts/peas. - there's something on the outside of these beasties that sets things off, which possibly explains it. Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Mike Dee on 24 Jan 2010 07:03
real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote: > So these serene assurances I've had that all one needs to do is > wait until the light is out - that's bullshit with regards your > experience of losing data, is it? No... I'm just saying that YMMV and that _for me_, the safe route is *the* route to take, in view of *any* alternative to that route. For example, if I have a thumb drive loaded and while I'm reading or saving data and at the time of doing so, there is a power outage (this is not uncommon where I live) then I will take my chances with the outcome of that scenario. But while conditions are good (no electrical storms, etc), I will try my utmost to do the right thing. i.e. if I have finished with using the drive I will dismount it correctly(1). Yes I have lost data by accidentally removing a thumb drive when I should not have. Others may or may not lose data under the same circumstances. But I would rather not tempt that fate again if at all possible. Once bitten twice shy and all that. (1) To me, "correctly" = dismount the drive, not pull it out from its connecting port beforehand. -- dee |