From: Tim Watts on
On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:06:39 -0800, JeffM <jeffm_(a)email.com> wibbled:

> Tim Watts wrote:
>>you can use Ubuntu (Gnome windows based), [its] sister Kubuntu (KDE
>>windows/desktop based), Xubuntu (XFCE based) or the Netbook remix
>>(perfect for flash based little netbooks like the eeepc).
>>
> ...or Fluxbuntu, which is lighter than any of those --and less
> graphical.

Just wait for RatPoisonUbuntu...

> There is also an alpha release of Lubuntu which uses the Lightweight X11
> Desktop Environment (LXDE). Some folks are watching that development
> with interest.
>
> A bootable moonOS CD will also show you the Enlightenment desktop in a
> *buntu environment.
>
> The thing about desktops is that you can have as many as you want; just
> choose the one you want at startup.
>
> ...and Linux Mint is *buntu
> with a more complete out-of-the-box experience (codecs, DVD support,
> fonts, Flash, Java, Adobe Reader... --all the proprietary junk)
> There are GNOME, KDE, Xfce, and Fluxbox editions and an LXDE edition is
> in the works.

That's new to me - must check that out....



--
Tim Watts

Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer.
From: Tim Watts on
On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:19:28 -0800, Too_Many_Tools
<too_many_tools(a)yahoo.com> wibbled:

> On Jan 25, 6:56 am, AndyS <andysha...(a)juno.com> wrote:
>> Andy asks:
>>
>>     I am considering switching from WINDOWS to UBUNTU, which is a
>> Linnux
>> based operating system.
>>
>>     Has anyone here had any experience with it or have any pointers
>> that
>> I should be aware of ??
>>
>>               Thanks,
>>
>>                  AndyS  W4OAH
>
> I am too.considering a switch.
>
> What software packages DO NOT WORK with UBUNTU?
>
> Thanks for any info.
>
> TMT

pretty much anything available for any Linux will work with Ubuntu. The
thing with Ubuntu (and debian) is that that package is *likely* to be
integrated into the main repositories so installing it is no more
difficult than

apt-get install yourfavouriteproggy

(or do the very same through the GUI).

Most of the stuff you use on windows has a program with similar
functionality available, except, as discussed, Access. For example, you
use IE, then you use Firefox (personally you should anyway, even on
Windows). Use some random paint/photo program - use Gimp.

Use Excel - use OpenCalc (OpenOffice) - it can read and write Excel
spreadsheets as long as they aren't too weird.

And so on.

Stuff like Adobe Acroread and GoogleEarth have linux binaries so they
just work.

For that software that you *must* use that's only available on Windows
(and being EE types, you probably all have things like that - eg PCB
software, circuit emulators, instrumentation PC interfaces...) then 3
main choices:

1) See if it runs under the WINE (is not an) Emulator;

2) Run a copy of Windows in a virtual machine under linux, eg VMWare and
many others (warning - double your RAM - but it does work very well)

3) Shove all that stuff onto a decent PC in the corner, enable Terminal
Services and rdesktop a window onto that machine for the special case
software.

HTH

Tim



--
Tim Watts

Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer.
From: Joel Koltner on
"Tim Watts" <tw(a)dionic.net> wrote in message
news:hjlagm$p2j$3(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> Most of the stuff you use on windows has a program with similar
> functionality available, except, as discussed, Access.

Another example of popular "mainstream" software that doesn't exist on Linux
is something like Delorme's Street Atlas USA or Microsoft's Streets & Trips.
(Mapping software which -- while they often have on-line links these days --
come with the entire map set already so can be used away from Internet
connections.)

> 2) Run a copy of Windows in a virtual machine under linux, eg VMWare and
> many others (warning - double your RAM - but it does work very well)

You also have to be careful if you're running, e.g., 3D CAD software such as
SolidWorks to be a video card where the card's 3D acceleartion can be "passed
through" to the virtual machine -- otherwise your frame rates can easily be
decimated.

---Joel

From: miso on
On Jan 25, 6:52 am, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSensel...(a)electrooptical.net> wrote:
> On 1/25/2010 7:56 AM, AndyS wrote:
>
> > Andy asks:
>
> >      I am considering switching from WINDOWS to UBUNTU, which is a
> > Linnux
> > based operating system.
>
> >      Has anyone here had any experience with it or have any pointers
> > that
> > I should be aware of ??
>
> >                Thanks,
>
> >                   AndyS  W4OAH
>
> Yup.  I'm more of a KDE fan, so I've used Kubuntu at various points on
> several machines from old Thinkpads to dual-CPU SMPs.    It's pretty
> painless initially, especially the way it installs itself as a dual-boot
> with Windows, which is quite slick.  (Do a backup first, though!)
>
> The main issue I have with Ubuntu (and maybe Debian in general, I don't
> know) is that it won't do as it's bloody well told, especially when it
> comes to disc partitioning.  If I have a 1 TB disc, say, and I want the
> partitions to start on cylinder boundaries (due to some issues with
> other OSes), I should be able to do that...but Ubuntu insists on
> changing the partition table to do what _IT_ wants, even if I tell it to
> install on a pre-existing partition.  And for what?  To save 5 MB of
> disc space.  Maddening.
>
> Cheers
>
> Phil Hobbs
>
> --
> Dr Philip C D Hobbs
> Principal
> ElectroOptical Innovations
> 55 Orchard Rd
> Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
> 845-480-2058
>
> email: hobbs at electrooptical dot nethttp://electrooptical.net

I use Suse. You can partition however you want, but you are own your
own if doing so. I've found Suse works best with software RAID. In
fact, at the time I built some of my PCs, Suse was the only
distribution that worked with my Nvidia software RAID. This may not be
the case any longer.

I don't like the constant upgrading with ubuntu. Every time you turn
around, they have a new "animal" release.

I use KDE as well. I've noticed they have a KDE for windows, but I'm
not that brave. Suse has "plasma", which I guess is like a fancy Qt. I
haven't messed with it much.
From: miso on
On Jan 25, 4:56 am, AndyS <andysha...(a)juno.com> wrote:
> Andy asks:
>
>     I am considering switching from WINDOWS to UBUNTU, which is a
> Linnux
> based operating system.
>
>     Has anyone here had any experience with it or have any pointers
> that
> I should be aware of ??
>
>               Thanks,
>
>                  AndyS  W4OAH

Everyone has their favorite distribution. [I use Suse.]

Have fun with this website:
http://distrowatch.com/