From: Joel Koltner on
<miso(a)sushi.com> wrote in message
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>I don't like the constant upgrading with ubuntu. Every time you turn
>around, they have a new "animal" release.

I think they do a pretty decent job in appealing to both the "gotta have the
latest stuff now!" users with their bi-annual releases as well as the "I just
want something that's stable and works" users with the alternative-year
releases ("long term support" releases). The problem is that the last LTS
edition was 8.04 (April, 2008) and Linux/KDE/Gnome have changed a *lot* since
then -- far more than Windows changes in two years. I expect that the
upcoming LTS edition this April will be pretty good, and that the pace of
change might be slowing a bit.

---Joel

From: JeffM on
Joel Koltner wrote:
>their bi-annual releases
>
semi-annual
From: Joel Koltner on

"JeffM" <jeffm_(a)email.com> wrote in message
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> Joel Koltner wrote:
>>their bi-annual releases
> semi-annual

Because with bi-annual it's ambiguous as to whether it's two times a year or
every two years?

From dictionary.com:

bi-an-nu-al
-adjective
1. occurring twice a year; semiannual.
2. occurring every two years; biennial.

Hmm... seems like a word to avoid...

---Joel

From: JeffM on
>JeffM wrote:
>>semi-annual
>>
Joel Koltner wrote:
>bi-an-nu-al
> 1. occurring twice a year; semiannual.
> 2. occurring every two years; biennial.
>
>Hmm... seems like a word to avoid...

....like "every other".
Does that mean *every second* item or *all* other items? 8-(
From: miso on
On Jan 27, 12:40 pm, "Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgro...(a)yahoo.com>
wrote:
> "JeffM" <jef...(a)email.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ca1e7c0b-b830-42b9-ae16-8fa10856ed18(a)g29g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Joel Koltner wrote:
> >>their bi-annual releases
> > semi-annual
>
> Because with bi-annual it's ambiguous as to whether it's two times a year or
> every two years?
>
> From dictionary.com:
>
> bi-an-nu-al
> -adjective
> 1.  occurring twice a year; semiannual.
> 2.  occurring every two years; biennial.
>
> Hmm... seems like a word to avoid...
>
> ---Joel

All this depends on your application. If you are setting up a server,
you don't want all those updates. For a desktop, maybe every 6 months
is OK. Suse has a simple update scheme, much like windows. You get a
notice, you run the update, and thus far I haven't had a problem.
[Windows updates are another story. Occasionally, they just won't
install.]

It is my experience that there seems to be less software set up
specifically for opensuse these days. [Usually Fedora is the target.]
It might be the issue that Suse got in bed with Novel and thus became
on the hell freezes over list for some developers. However, opensuse
does a good job with repositories, and there is much electronics
software aimed at Suse due to the influence of Germany. Also, opensuse
handled RPM. Once in a while though, you will find it necessary to
create links in directories so that libraries will be found by config
files, or you tweak the config file for Suse.

I'm not sure Linux is really ready for those that don't want to do a
bit of work when installing software. I will say the Nvidia repository
was the only way I could get 3D going on my videocard. [There is one
for ATI too.] I can run the Google Earth posix binary under suse.

Sticking with electronics, you can get those Ines PCI GPIB cards quite
cheap on the surplus market. Ines, being German, has suse support.
http://www.inesinc.com/gpib

I use Suse and Opensuse kind of interchangeably. Opensuse is the free
(no phone support) version of Suse. You can buy Suse and get phone
support for I believe 6 months after purchase. I did that years ago
when I first started using linux. Today, I don't think you need phone
support, but the option is there.