From: JeffM on
miso@ sushi.com wrote:
>there seems to be less software set up specifically for opensuse
>these days. [Usually Fedora is the target.]
>
The Debian repositories are at ~25,000 apps;
Ubuntu's at ~26,000; Mint's, just a bit more.

Last I heard, Fedora's was ~15,000.
That last number is a bit dated, I'm sure.

>It might be the issue that Suse got in bed with Novel
>
SuSE is wholly-owned by Novell.

>and thus became on the hell freezes over list
>for some developers.
>
Yup. The ten foot pole is often mentioned in that context.
....but, as I mentioned earlier,
the *alien* app can handle cross-package issues.
From: Archimedes' Lever on
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:40:25 -0800 (PST), JeffM <jeffm_(a)email.com> wrote:

>miso@ sushi.com wrote:
>>there seems to be less software set up specifically for opensuse
>>these days. [Usually Fedora is the target.]
>>
>The Debian repositories are at ~25,000 apps;
>Ubuntu's at ~26,000; Mint's, just a bit more.
>
>Last I heard, Fedora's was ~15,000.
>That last number is a bit dated, I'm sure.
>
>>It might be the issue that Suse got in bed with Novel
>>
>SuSE is wholly-owned by Novell.
>
>>and thus became on the hell freezes over list
>>for some developers.
>>
>Yup. The ten foot pole is often mentioned in that context.
>...but, as I mentioned earlier,
>the *alien* app can handle cross-package issues.


Have you checked the size of any compressed live boot disc distros,like
Knoppix?

It has over 10GB compressed onto its 4.6GB DVD image. I'll bet that
the number is a bit higher than 26k.
From: miso on
On Jan 27, 6:40 pm, JeffM <jef...(a)email.com> wrote:
> miso@ sushi.com wrote:
> >there seems to be less software set up specifically for opensuse
> >these days. [Usually Fedora is the target.]
>
> The Debian repositories are at ~25,000 apps;
> Ubuntu's at ~26,000; Mint's, just a bit more.
>
> Last I heard, Fedora's was ~15,000.
> That last number is a bit dated, I'm sure.
>
> >It might be the issue that Suse got in bed with Novel
>
> SuSE is wholly-owned by Novell.
>
> >and thus became on the hell freezes over list
> >for some developers.
>
> Yup.  The ten foot pole is often mentioned in that context.
> ...but, as I mentioned earlier,
> the *alien* app can handle cross-package issues.

But Opensuse is ...well...open. Dig though Leo Laporte's FLOSS
podcasts. There is one which interviews a person from Opensuse and he
explains the relationship. The guy doing the interview asks some
bonehead question about KDE, but that is another story.

Thus far, no dead horse head has been left in my bed for using
opensuse, but the decade is still young. The one-click software
installations (when they exist) are great. The only issue you will
find with opensuse is the library locations. But that is going to be
an issue with any distribution since it depends on which version of
linux the program was developed.

I should point out that Sun now gives away Solaris if anyone wants yet
another distributions to mess with. I couldn't get Solaris to
recognize by software RAID.

From: JosephKK on
On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 21:04:15 -0800 (PST), "miso(a)sushi.com" <miso(a)sushi.com> wrote:

>On Jan 25, 6:52 am, Phil Hobbs
><pcdhSpamMeSensel...(a)electrooptical.net> wrote:
>> On 1/25/2010 7:56 AM, AndyS wrote:
>>
>> > Andy asks:
>>
>> >      I am considering switching from WINDOWS to UBUNTU, which is a
>> > Linnux
>> > based operating system.
>>
>> >      Has anyone here had any experience with it or have any pointers
>> > that
>> > I should be aware of ??
>>
>> >                Thanks,
>>
>> >                   AndyS  W4OAH
>>
>> Yup.  I'm more of a KDE fan, so I've used Kubuntu at various points on
>> several machines from old Thinkpads to dual-CPU SMPs.    It's pretty
>> painless initially, especially the way it installs itself as a dual-boot
>> with Windows, which is quite slick.  (Do a backup first, though!)
>>
>> The main issue I have with Ubuntu (and maybe Debian in general, I don't
>> know) is that it won't do as it's bloody well told, especially when it
>> comes to disc partitioning.  If I have a 1 TB disc, say, and I want the
>> partitions to start on cylinder boundaries (due to some issues with
>> other OSes), I should be able to do that...but Ubuntu insists on
>> changing the partition table to do what _IT_ wants, even if I tell it to
>> install on a pre-existing partition.  And for what?  To save 5 MB of
>> disc space.  Maddening.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Phil Hobbs
>>
>> --
>> Dr Philip C D Hobbs
>> Principal
>> ElectroOptical Innovations
>> 55 Orchard Rd
>> Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
>> 845-480-2058
>>
>> email: hobbs at electrooptical dot nethttp://electrooptical.net
>
>I use Suse. You can partition however you want, but you are own your
>own if doing so. I've found Suse works best with software RAID. In
>fact, at the time I built some of my PCs, Suse was the only
>distribution that worked with my Nvidia software RAID. This may not be
>the case any longer.
>
>I don't like the constant upgrading with ubuntu. Every time you turn
>around, they have a new "animal" release.
>
>I use KDE as well. I've noticed they have a KDE for windows, but I'm
>not that brave. Suse has "plasma", which I guess is like a fancy Qt. I
>haven't messed with it much.

Unless you are into eye heroin (candy) i would not bother with it. Plasma
and compiz are rather well known to be rather buggy.
From: JosephKK on
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:40:25 -0800 (PST), JeffM <jeffm_(a)email.com> wrote:

>miso@ sushi.com wrote:
>>there seems to be less software set up specifically for opensuse
>>these days. [Usually Fedora is the target.]
>>
>The Debian repositories are at ~25,000 apps;
>Ubuntu's at ~26,000; Mint's, just a bit more.
>
>Last I heard, Fedora's was ~15,000.
>That last number is a bit dated, I'm sure.
>
>>It might be the issue that Suse got in bed with Novel
>>
>SuSE is wholly-owned by Novell.
>
>>and thus became on the hell freezes over list
>>for some developers.
>>
>Yup. The ten foot pole is often mentioned in that context.
>...but, as I mentioned earlier,
>the *alien* app can handle cross-package issues.

There is one thing Fedora (red hat) has that most other distributions
don't, working gEDA/GAF. That is why i have live DVDs of fedora.