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From: Dri one on 25 Jul 2010 23:38 "Joshua Cranmer" <Pidgeot18(a)verizon.invalid> wrote in message news:i2hu9k$6uf$1(a)news-int2.gatech.edu... > On 07/25/2010 01:43 PM, JSH wrote: >> On Jul 25, 10:24 am, Mark Murray<w.h.o...(a)example.com> wrote: >>> On 25/07/2010 17:56, JSH wrote: >>> >>>> Name 2 outside of the US, Britain and Australia. I dare you. >>> >>> Mathematics: Grigori Perelman (Russia) >>> >>> Politics/peace: Aung San Suu Kyi (Burma), Nelson Mandela (South Africa) >>> >>> Religion/peace: The Dalai Lama (Tibet (exiled)) >>> >>> World Politics: Ban Ki-Moon, UN secretary general (Korea) >>> >>> Thats 5 in about five seconds of thought. It took me MUCH longer than >>> that to type this out. What do I win? >> >> Are there are any more? > > Merely listing political leaders: > Angela Merkel, Nicholas Sarkozy, Dimitry Medvedev, Hu Jintao, Naoto Kan, > Jacob Zuma, Goodluck Jonathan, Luiz Silva, Felipe Calder�n, Hosni Mubarak, > Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. > > Those are current leaders which are capable of effecting (not a typo) > regional politics, if not international politics at some level. I could > also include, if a bit more controversially, figures in Israel, Qatar, > Palestine, Turkey, Greece, Syria, South Korea, North Korea (hey, he does > cause convulsions in China and the U.S.!), Sri Lanka, Sudan, Zimbabwe, > etc., as well as terrorist groups like Al Shabaab or Al Qaeda. > > -- > Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried > it. -- Donald E. Knuth JSH, drunk at keyboard, loses again. (SOS)
From: Jesse F. Hughes on 25 Jul 2010 23:32 JSH <jstevh(a)gmail.com> writes: > On Jul 25, 7:37 pm, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote: >> JSH <jst...(a)gmail.com> writes: >> > On Jul 25, 3:01 pm, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote: >> >> JSH <jst...(a)gmail.com> writes: >> >> > But I have no interest in persuading you that it is true. >> >> >> Well, then, I'm not sure why you claimed to be a world figure at all if >> >> you don't intend to persuade anyone that it is true. >> >> > But if I were a world figure, why would I have to persuade anyone that >> > it is true? >> >> Good question! We should all be able to recognize that fact, one would >> think. > > Why? > > How would you know? Well, touche! I'm no match for your debating skills! I concede the point. You are obviously a world figure. -- Jesse F. Hughes Playin' dismal hollers for abysmal dollars, Those were the days, best I can recall. -- Austin Lounge Lizards, "Rocky Byways"
From: JSH on 26 Jul 2010 00:01 On Jul 25, 8:32 pm, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote: > JSH <jst...(a)gmail.com> writes: > > On Jul 25, 7:37 pm, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote: > >> JSH <jst...(a)gmail.com> writes: > >> > On Jul 25, 3:01 pm, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote: > >> >> JSH <jst...(a)gmail.com> writes: > >> >> > But I have no interest in persuading you that it is true. > > >> >> Well, then, I'm not sure why you claimed to be a world figure at all if > >> >> you don't intend to persuade anyone that it is true. > > >> > But if I were a world figure, why would I have to persuade anyone that > >> > it is true? > > >> Good question! We should all be able to recognize that fact, one would > >> think. > > > Why? > > > How would you know? > > Well, touche! I'm no match for your debating skills! It would have been more interesting if you'd tried to answer. My guess is you have this vague notion that you'd know, which isn't unnatural. I'm sure many people think they know of most of the people who might be considered world figures, but I don't think I do. > I concede the point. You are obviously a world figure. But who cares? Why is it a big deal to you anyway? If it makes you happy I'm going by my belief that sci.math is read worldwide, on Internet search results related to my various interests, and on country counts to my various websites. And I'm practicing. I guess you figure that famous people just wake up one day and they're famous and know what to do? How would you? You ever ice skate? Did you just walk on the ice one day and skate like a pro? I use Usenet for many things and one of those uses is practice. It was interesting to me how infuriated you got at the idea of me being a world figure so you see a lot of replies. Why? What bugged you so much about that? You ever REALLY imagine standing up at a podium with the cameras rolling to some audience knowing that it's going out to a world? Sound like a fantasy to you? A cool dream? Do you LIKE public speaking? Kind of like ice skating? If you're a champ, ok, but what if it's your FIRST DAY ON THE ICE? You want cameras rolling? A competition then? Do you want the world to show up to watch you try to ice skate for the first time? What makes you think being famous is easier? Because you've been TOLD it's a fantasy? Ever think it's work? I bet you assume that the people who do it well just have a gift or something, like magical powers that tell you how to talk to a camera, and how to handle knowing millions of people are watching, and just not worry that if you massively screw up you are more news that way. Reading posters on Usenet has helped me get perspective, but hey, you folks are probably helping a LOT of celebrities out there as well, or you will. If I get famous--in the traditional sense--then yeah, you know they'll be reading and learning. But I wouldn't be surprised if some of them are reading and learning now. It's what they do. They have to do it. Like ice skating, it takes practice. James Harris
From: Jesse F. Hughes on 26 Jul 2010 00:40 JSH <jstevh(a)gmail.com> writes: > But who cares? Why is it a big deal to you anyway? If it makes you > happy I'm going by my belief that sci.math is read worldwide, on > Internet search results related to my various interests, and on > country counts to my various websites. > > And I'm practicing. Wait. So you're *not* a world figure? You're just pretending for "practice"? [...] > Reading posters on Usenet has helped me get perspective, but hey, you > folks are probably helping a LOT of celebrities out there as well, or > you will. If I get famous--in the traditional sense--then yeah, you > know they'll be reading and learning. > > But I wouldn't be surprised if some of them are reading and learning > now. > > It's what they do. They have to do it. Like ice skating, it takes > practice. Well, I don't know about famous folk like you do. Maybe future celebs really *do* read sci.math in order to learn how to be famous. Maybe that's what Snooki and the Situation did before season one on the Jersey Shore. But I confess that my imagination just isn't sufficient to picture that. -- Jesse F. Hughes "I thought it relevant to inform that I notified the FBI a couple of months ago about some of the math issues I've brought up here." -- James S. Harris gives Special Agent Fox a new assignment.
From: Mark Murray on 26 Jul 2010 03:54
On 26/07/2010 01:23, JSH wrote: > On Jul 25, 3:01 pm, "Jesse F. Hughes"<je...(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote: >> JSH<jst...(a)gmail.com> writes: >>> But I have no interest in persuading you that it is true. >> >> Well, then, I'm not sure why you claimed to be a world figure at all if >> you don't intend to persuade anyone that it is true. > > But if I were a world figure, why would I have to persuade anyone that > it is true? Beats me. Yet you spend a HELLUVA lot of effort in doing so. > Why would anyone try such a thing? I have no idea. Why don't you enlighten us? > The context was that the poster "Mark Murray" appealed to the crowd > about his arguing on prime gaps, and I noted that he WAS the > entertainment and he was naive to think that posters really were lined > up to help him even when he was dreadfully wrong, and noted that I'm a > world figure for a reason. See? Yet more argument in favour of your "I am a world figure". > I was trying to get him to look behind the curtain behind the show > that is sci.math and some of the things that go on here that drive a > LOT of reader's interest. > > My point being that posters like you and him ARE the entertainment. > And your befuddled lack of awareness of that is entertaining as well. > So why do you think you're in the position of demanding anything? Make sense, please (unless this is simply projection). > Even if I could provide you evidence that would satisfy whatever > notion percolates in your brain for the phrase "world figure" I'd be > going further out of my way to release a foil. > > You ARE the entertainment. > > Your belief that I'm not a world figure is a necessary part of your > behavior. So, are you, or are you NOT, a "world figure"? "Yes I am" or "No I'm not" will suffice. M -- Mark "No Nickname" Murray Notable nebbish, extreme generalist. |