From: Mark Murray on
On 25/07/2010 21:56, MichaelW wrote:
> I don't know what irritates me more about this thread; that everyone
> has fallen into the trap of talking about James rather than maths or
> the ignorance of my home country.

Apologies; I'm out after this post.

> Regards, Michael W, posting from Australia which despite our low
> population has many individuals active on the world stage in the areas
> of politics, environment, religion, entertainment, academia and sport.

No doubt. I'm just horribly ignorant of that part of the world, being
Africa- and Europe-centric. This doesn't mean you guys haven't done your
bit, it just means I don't know about it.

Looks I have have a topic to add to my reading list :-).

M
--
Mark "No Nickname" Murray
Notable nebbish, extreme generalist.
From: Jesse F. Hughes on
JSH <jstevh(a)gmail.com> writes:

> But I have no interest in persuading you that it is true.

Well, then, I'm not sure why you claimed to be a world figure at all if
you don't intend to persuade anyone that it is true.
--
Jesse F. Hughes

"Usenet allows people to live in complete fantasy."
-- James S. Harris
From: John Roberts-Jones on
In <87d3ub43wi.fsf(a)phiwumbda.org>, "Jesse F. Hughes"
<jesse(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote:

>JSH <jstevh(a)gmail.com> writes:
>
>> But I have no interest in persuading you that it is true.
>
>Well, then, I'm not sure why you claimed to be a world figure at all if
>you don't intend to persuade anyone that it is true.

That's because you don't understand how the internet works.

Only world figures get spammed in Chinese.

--
John Roberts-Jones
From: JSH on
On Jul 25, 3:01 pm, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote:
> JSH <jst...(a)gmail.com> writes:
> > But I have no interest in persuading you that it is true.
>
> Well, then, I'm not sure why you claimed to be a world figure at all if
> you don't intend to persuade anyone that it is true.

But if I were a world figure, why would I have to persuade anyone that
it is true?

Why would anyone try such a thing?

The context was that the poster "Mark Murray" appealed to the crowd
about his arguing on prime gaps, and I noted that he WAS the
entertainment and he was naive to think that posters really were lined
up to help him even when he was dreadfully wrong, and noted that I'm a
world figure for a reason.

I was trying to get him to look behind the curtain behind the show
that is sci.math and some of the things that go on here that drive a
LOT of reader's interest.

My point being that posters like you and him ARE the entertainment.
And your befuddled lack of awareness of that is entertaining as well.
So why do you think you're in the position of demanding anything?

Even if I could provide you evidence that would satisfy whatever
notion percolates in your brain for the phrase "world figure" I'd be
going further out of my way to release a foil.

You ARE the entertainment.

Your belief that I'm not a world figure is a necessary part of your
behavior.


James Harris
From: Rupert on
On Jul 25, 1:30 am, JSH <jst...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 23, 11:25 pm, Rupert <rupertmccal...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 24, 1:28 pm, JSH <jst...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Because I have a claim of having a prime gap equation it turns out
> > > that there are a LOT of things that must follow with that claim:
>
> > > 1.  The prime gap equation settles the twin primes conjecture.
>
> > > 2.  The theory with the prime gap equation must handle first
> > > occurrence of gaps, like when should you first see a prime gap of 100?
>
> > > 3.  The theory with the prime gap equation then also handles maximal
> > > gap within a particular interval.
>
> > > 4.  The prime gap equation has to accurately predict for ANY even
> > > positive gap.
>
> > > 5.  The prime gap equation settles Goldbach's conjecture.
>
> > > So of course there are lots of places to attack such a claim!!!
>
> > > Which is why it's also a big deal for me to give a grace period.  I
> > > actually am allowing some people their livelihoods.
>
> > > But I'm also curious about a world of billions of people who could be
> > > so limited with such an interesting area--primes.
>
> > > Can an entire world except me fail?
>
> > > Wouldn't it be more interesting to answer that question than any
> > > other?
>
> > > Am I the best out of billions?
>
> > > As if in a few years time I DO prove that an entire world of billions
> > > of people failed, except one, what might that say?
>
> > > If billions of people can't work out some simple results with prime
> > > numbers, what can they do, really?
>
> > > James Harris
>
> > What exactly is it that you claim to have proved?
>
> The gaps between primes are about random only and in fact may define
> random for everything including our physical world.  The prime gap
> equation is simply a probability based calculations for any even prime
> gap, which has with it some theory to handle when a prime gap can
> first occur.
>
> If I'm correct then further "research" on prime gaps is specious.
>
> But possibly lucrative to people who may be completely lost in that
> they no longer give a damn--all they want is to get paid, like with
> funding grants for "research" in an area where nothing can come of
> such research--in a way a perfect area then for a charlatan.
>
> Their "research" has no possible end date for a valid result.  Maybe
> someone will come up with a faux proof for some prize so I've
> forbidden that, and noted I'd try to collapse the fraud immediately if
> that occurred so mathematicians are forbidden from claiming proof of
> the twin primes conjecture.
>
> James Harris- Hide quoted text -
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There's no mathematical statement here. I was after a mathematical
statement which you claim to have proved.