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From: Marshall on 25 Jul 2010 21:37 On Jul 25, 5:23 pm, JSH <jst...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 25, 3:01 pm, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote: > > JSH <jst...(a)gmail.com> writes: > > > But I have no interest in persuading you that it is true. > > > Well, then, I'm not sure why you claimed to be a world figure > > at all if you don't intend to persuade anyone that it is true. > > But if I were a world figure, why would I have to persuade > anyone that it is true? If you were a world figure, why would you have to claim to be one? Can you name two world figures who have publicly claimed to be world figures? > The context was that the poster "Mark Murray" I notice that you consistently refer to Mark Murray as "the poster 'Mark Murray'" or "the 'Mark Murray' poster." > Your belief that I'm not a world figure is a necessary part of your > behavior. Rather, your belief that he's expressed an opinion on this issue is a necessary part of yours. Ordinarily I would suggest that you review the thread for direct evidence of the fact that he hasn't expressed an opinion, and has even explicitly declined to do so. But as a world figure I don't expect you have the time. I'm not certain whether you're a world figure or not, but I do have objective evidence that you're not among the top ten most famous people named "James Harris." In fact, you're not even in the top three most famous people named "James S. Harris". Stanford EE professor James S. Harris, the infamous would-be XBox thief James S. Harris, and the R&B producer James "Jimmy Jam" S. Harris all come up higher on a Google search for "James S. Harris" than you do. Interestingly, the first hit that refers to you comes to us courtesy of a web-enabled Dissociated Press of your usenet posts. Thus your fame, whatever it may be, is derived first and foremost from the efforts of your #1 fan: the "Jesse Hughes" poster. Marshall
From: JSH on 25 Jul 2010 22:17 On Jul 25, 6:37 pm, Marshall <marshall.spi...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 25, 5:23 pm, JSH <jst...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Jul 25, 3:01 pm, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote: > > > JSH <jst...(a)gmail.com> writes: > > > > But I have no interest in persuading you that it is true. > > > > Well, then, I'm not sure why you claimed to be a world figure > > > at all if you don't intend to persuade anyone that it is true. > > > But if I were a world figure, why would I have to persuade > > anyone that it is true? > > If you were a world figure, why would you have to claim to be one? Exactly. I'm not making a claim. > Can you name two world figures who have publicly claimed > to be world figures? There probably are some, but I can't think of any off-hand. > > The context was that the poster "Mark Murray" > > I notice that you consistently refer to Mark Murray as > "the poster 'Mark Murray'" or "the 'Mark Murray' poster." > > > Your belief that I'm not a world figure is a necessary part of your > > behavior. > > Rather, your belief that he's expressed an opinion on this > issue is a necessary part of yours. Ordinarily I would > suggest that you review the thread for direct evidence of > the fact that he hasn't expressed an opinion, and has > even explicitly declined to do so. But as a world figure > I don't expect you have the time. Mathematicians have given me the time. Denial of mathematical proofs can do that to a guy. > I'm not certain whether you're a world figure or not, but > I do have objective evidence that you're not among the > top ten most famous people named "James Harris." > In fact, you're not even in the top three most famous > people named "James S. Harris". Thankfully. > Stanford EE professor James S. Harris, the infamous > would-be XBox thief James S. Harris, and the R&B > producer James "Jimmy Jam" S. Harris all come up > higher on a Google search for "James S. Harris" than > you do. > > Interestingly, the first hit that refers to you comes > to us courtesy of a web-enabled Dissociated Press > of your usenet posts. Oh, you're luckier than I am. First hit I get is to that Crank.net page slamming me. > Thus your fame, whatever it may be, is derived > first and foremost from the efforts of your #1 fan: > the "Jesse Hughes" poster. > > Marshall Searches vary around the world. Context was that I was trying to clue someone in on the circus that is sci.math where part of the draw is the entertainment. I've already noted that I pull people from 100+ countries on an annual basis. Dude was posting like he thought I was some local nobody phenomenon, when he's in England. But I mean, like months ago--yes, sad that I remember but it was bizarre--when I noted that I was biggest in England in terms of hit count to my math blog, and London is my top city according to Google Analytics, he posted that *HE* visited a lot!!! As if all those visits were just him. So I named off English cities like all over the place, as it was kind of weird. Hey, this Usenet and Internet thing is just so wild, so new and so weird, that at times I try to put out more info than just use someone. Which is why I say I use Usenet. I think most posters know, right? Come on, when I post regularly it warps the entire freaking newsgroup for a while. No one else can do the same. Sure they can spam the place, but I just dominate it, easily. But posters reply to me like, well, like they don't have a clue! And I think they're in on the game but the "Mark Murray" guy, and yeah I like using quotes as you don't necessarily have the person's name, seemed to be particularly clueless, but maybe was just playing? So I make the effort. Why I'm getting so many hits from London is a mystery to me. But think about it--I'm in an argument about being a world figure when I live in San Francisco and one of the people in the debate is in freaking England, and who knows where in the hell you are. I also seem to have a little crew from Finland--according to Google Analytics. My websites get hits from roughly 30+ countries every 7 days according to multiple sources which is a count that includes downloads of my open source project Class Viewer. That's every week. Last year--121 countries/territories according to Google Analytics, to just my math blog. I post on Usenet to talk things out and partly as I get entertaining people who will argue with me. Yet a single news story ever comes out? And they'll fade like ghosts. So I'm shooting the gap. Years from now I'll probably beg people to have an actual discussion with me without them just agreeing with everything I say. Fame can really suck. I've read a lot up on it. I check out the stories. People change on you. And you change. Before all that I get to argue with funny people who can't grasp that I'm a world figure--whatever that freaking means in an Internet Age. James Harris
From: Jesse F. Hughes on 25 Jul 2010 22:37 JSH <jstevh(a)gmail.com> writes: > On Jul 25, 3:01 pm, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote: >> JSH <jst...(a)gmail.com> writes: >> > But I have no interest in persuading you that it is true. >> >> Well, then, I'm not sure why you claimed to be a world figure at all if >> you don't intend to persuade anyone that it is true. > > But if I were a world figure, why would I have to persuade anyone that > it is true? Good question! We should all be able to recognize that fact, one would think. -- "So why talk [about my factoring method] out on Usenet? Because it's a highly public place so I'm unlikely to disappear[...] You people are my protection. [...] You may be what's keeping me free and walking out in the open air." -- James S. Harris, theory guy on the edge.
From: Dri one on 25 Jul 2010 23:17 "JSH" <jstevh(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:e6aa1574-1c59-4c83-9856-e0075359739a(a)m17g2000prl.googlegroups.com... On Jul 24, 10:04 am, Mark Murray <w.h.o...(a)example.com> wrote: > On 24/07/2010 16:30, JSH wrote: > > > If I'm correct then further "research" on prime gaps is specious. > > What if you are /not/ correct? How would you tell? >Yuck, you know no math, failed when challenged to show your work, >trotting out an answer from a computer program, and now you ask a >stupid question. lies. >Answer is: my prime gap equation would fail against the data if wrong. it dosent work at all. >So anyone with access to prime gap data can check it at any time. it dosent work >And to see my prime gap equation, search on: prime gap equation it dosent work dumbass >Issues here are black and white. That data set is a big one and a >rather famous one within the math world. Nicely has quite a lot of >data that he's piled up himself. >So my position is as bold as it gets and does not require preachy >little bitches asking stupid questions and damn you if you ask me to >apologize here!!! it dosen't work, it is sloppy, and flawed. >(For readers wondering, see other threads where I have to call out the >"Mark Murray" poster who appears ready to push moral rules on sci.math >posters, like apologizing.) Mark is a fine person, you JSH are an troll with nothing. >He knows no math. Can show no math. But he will preach to you. And >ask stupid questions. Projecting again ? (wiki for it) >And post and post and post and post. His moronic posts fill my >threads. He challanges your lies. >Guess he also doesn't have a life of his own so he hangs on my >coattails. lies >James Harris
From: JSH on 25 Jul 2010 23:23
On Jul 25, 7:37 pm, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote: > JSH <jst...(a)gmail.com> writes: > > On Jul 25, 3:01 pm, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote: > >> JSH <jst...(a)gmail.com> writes: > >> > But I have no interest in persuading you that it is true. > > >> Well, then, I'm not sure why you claimed to be a world figure at all if > >> you don't intend to persuade anyone that it is true. > > > But if I were a world figure, why would I have to persuade anyone that > > it is true? > > Good question! We should all be able to recognize that fact, one would > think. Why? How would you know? James Harris |