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From: Don Bowey on 16 Nov 2006 19:55 On 11/16/06 4:48 PM, in article 455D06D3.26B3FB4D(a)hotmail.com, "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Don Bowey wrote: > >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> "Don Bowey" <dbowey(a)comcast.net> wrote in message >>>> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Don Bowey wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'd rather have a new MG, but they are not importing to the US yet. >>>>> >>>>> What are these new MGs ? >>>> >>>> It's made in Japan. I don't recall the name of the company that bought >>>> the company. The car carries the MG logo, and the guy who owned it >>>> did not use a "type" code (like MGTJ for Type Japanese). >>> >>> I think it's called the MG F. To my knowledge, they were introduced in the >>> early 90s, and the company that makes them was thinking about exporting to >>> the US, but it never happened. I suspect they just didn't want to have to >>> deal with some safety or pollution control law that's unique to the US. >>> >>> Eric Lucas >> >> >> MG F would be unusual, given that there is already a MGTF..... > > I googled it and it does indeed exist. > http://www.mgf.org/ > > >> I'm sure it is all the safety and pollution requirements too, which is fine >> by me. I can recall when cities like Portland (Or.) were bleak with smog >> from cars until the pollution laws helped fix it. > > When was this ? > > Graham > As I recall, the pollution controls began being enforced about 1970. By the end of the decade the air was much cleaner.
From: lucasea on 16 Nov 2006 20:22 "Don Bowey" <dbowey(a)comcast.net> wrote in message news:C1823FBF.4D1E8%dbowey(a)comcast.net... > On 11/16/06 3:32 PM, in article > Jv67h.6500$IR4.5893(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net, "lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net" > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> >> "Don Bowey" <dbowey(a)comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:C1813799.4CF09%dbowey(a)comcast.net... >>> On 11/15/06 7:50 PM, in article 455BE00C.DE95D418(a)hotmail.com, "Eeyore" >>> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Don Bowey wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'd rather have a new MG, but they are not importing to the US yet. >>>> >>>> What are these new MGs ? >>> >>> It's made in Japan. I don't recall the name of the company that bought >>> the >>> company. The car carries the MG logo, and the guy who owned it did not >>> use >>> a "type" code (like MGTJ for Type Japanese). >> >> I think it's called the MG F. To my knowledge, they were introduced in >> the >> early 90s, and the company that makes them was thinking about exporting >> to >> the US, but it never happened. I suspect they just didn't want to have >> to >> deal with some safety or pollution control law that's unique to the US. >> >> Eric Lucas >> >> > > MG F would be unusual, given that there is already a MGTF..... > > I'm sure it is all the safety and pollution requirements too, which is > fine > by me. I can recall when cities like Portland (Or.) were bleak with smog > from cars until the pollution laws helped fix it. I haven't seen a smoggy > day in years and I'm for keeping it that way. > > Maybe I should just give up on a new MG and get a Mini Cooper S > convertible. Never driven a Mini. By me, it's all about handling--it's not clear to me that something that short would handle well. I do know that Miatas handle absolutely beautifully. (I can't remember--did you say you had a Miata?) There are actually several good to excellent roadsters on the market in the US now. Just about every car maker has one, and a number of them are supposed to drive very well. When I bought my second Miata, it was almost an MR2...except the local Toyota dealer didn't have any in stock, would have had a lot of trouble getting one, and wouldn't let me take the one he had for a solo test drive. I drove down the street to the Mazda dealer, took out the one I liked for about an hour solo on the local roads, and it was mine an hour later. I'm considering a used BMW Z3 for my next roadster. BMWs have an excellent reputation for drivability, and I never liked the look of the Z4. Eric Lucas Eric Lucas Eric Lucas >
From: lucasea on 16 Nov 2006 20:24 "Don Bowey" <dbowey(a)comcast.net> wrote in message news:C18241D2.4D1FD%dbowey(a)comcast.net... > On 11/16/06 4:05 PM, in article 36Sdnfd4Ao9DYcHYRVnytA(a)pipex.net, "T Wake" > <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > >> >> "Don Bowey" <dbowey(a)comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:C1823B76.4D1E6%dbowey(a)comcast.net... >>> On 11/16/06 1:43 PM, in article >>> dLednalCyqAORsHYnZ2dnUVZ8sudnZ2d(a)pipex.net, >>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> "JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message >>>> news:n1hol2h34lg57imeobnd9btu9e4dmabv9f(a)4ax.com... >>>>> On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:27:00 -0800, Don Bowey <dbowey(a)comcast.net> >>>>> Gave us: >>>>> >>>>>> On 11/15/06 7:28 PM, in article >>>>>> limnl2114gmfvlaar0okbtbic645gcbuoc(a)4ax.com, >>>>>> "JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:28:04 +0000, Eeyore >>>>>>> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Well, Eeyore, this would belie the assertion that she lives too >>>>>>>>>> far >>>>>>>>>> from a >>>>>>>>>> population center to get decent DSL. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I live in a town. There is no DSL line strung. >>>>>>>>> You people are starting to get really annoying. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> DSL comes down an ordinary telephone line ! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Graham >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Wrong. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ADSL REQUIRES a minimum of an ISDN switched POTS line. >>>>>>> That means that the customer's first switch has to be ISDN for his >>>>>>> area to be an ASDL capable area. THEN his Plain Old Telephone >>>>>>> Service >>>>>>> line will do DSL. >>>>>> >>>>>> Wrong. >>>>>> >>>>>> An ISDN DSL is only two 64 kbit/s Bearer Channels and the 18 kbit/s >>>>>> Data >>>>>> Channel which is used for signaling, etc. An ADSL does not require >>>>>> ISDN. >>>>> >>>>> What an ISDN switch house provides is the digital part. If there >>>>> is no digital switch in the first leg of the system, the area is not >>>>> capable of providing ADSL service. >>>> >>>> As always, you are wrong but continue to insist you are correct. >>>> >>> I suppose we could compare credentials, but I won't waste any more time >>> with >>> your ignorance. >> >> Were you replying to me or to JoeBloe here? >> >> > > I obviously made an error. I thought I was replying to JoeBloe. > > Sorry about that. It really is hard to keep the players straight without a scorecard. Eric Lucas
From: lucasea on 16 Nov 2006 20:47 "Don Bowey" <dbowey(a)comcast.net> wrote in message news:C1824889.4D214%dbowey(a)comcast.net... > On 11/16/06 4:48 PM, in article 455D06D3.26B3FB4D(a)hotmail.com, "Eeyore" > <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> Don Bowey wrote: >> >>> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>> "Don Bowey" <dbowey(a)comcast.net> wrote in message >>>>> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Don Bowey wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd rather have a new MG, but they are not importing to the US yet. >>>>>> >>>>>> What are these new MGs ? >>>>> >>>>> It's made in Japan. I don't recall the name of the company that >>>>> bought >>>>> the company. The car carries the MG logo, and the guy who owned it >>>>> did not use a "type" code (like MGTJ for Type Japanese). >>>> >>>> I think it's called the MG F. To my knowledge, they were introduced in >>>> the >>>> early 90s, and the company that makes them was thinking about exporting >>>> to >>>> the US, but it never happened. I suspect they just didn't want to have >>>> to >>>> deal with some safety or pollution control law that's unique to the US. >>>> >>>> Eric Lucas >>> >>> >>> MG F would be unusual, given that there is already a MGTF..... >> >> I googled it and it does indeed exist. >> http://www.mgf.org/ >> >> >>> I'm sure it is all the safety and pollution requirements too, which is >>> fine >>> by me. I can recall when cities like Portland (Or.) were bleak with >>> smog >>> from cars until the pollution laws helped fix it. >> >> When was this ? >> >> Graham >> > > As I recall, the pollution controls began being enforced about 1970. By > the > end of the decade the air was much cleaner. And not coincidentally, since US sales accounted for the majority of MG sales, they went under essentially at the end of the decade of the 70s. Eric Lucas
From: Eeyore on 16 Nov 2006 20:49
Don Bowey wrote: > MG F would be unusual, given that there is already a MGTF..... Apparently the MGF predated the MG TF. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_F Graham |