From: krw on
In article <ejhoi9$8qk_002(a)s938.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says...
> In article <MPG.1fc5b8c43468d032989b90(a)news.individual.net>,
> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote:
> >In article <ejf4nd$8qk_002(a)s792.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says...
> >> In article <MPG.1fc3bbe568ee60e1989b38(a)news.individual.net>,
> >> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote:
> >> >In article <ejccic$8ss_003(a)s858.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says...
> >> >> In article <eja0cc$9nk$1(a)blue.rahul.net>,
> >> >> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
> >> >> >In article <ej9pql$8qk_007(a)s785.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
> >> >> > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>In article <4557506C.83F6D696(a)earthlink.net>,
> >> >> >[....]
> >> >> >>> A tap is for threading holes.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>What? Explain, please?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >The tool for threading (cutting threads on the inside surface of) a
> hole
> >> >> >is called a "rap". Imagine a threaded bolt with 4 grooves cut along
> its
> >> >> >length adn a square head. It is made from very hard metal. You drill
> a
> >> >> >hole and then run the tap in. The it is held by a tee-handle. You
> turn
> >> >> >it one turn in and then back a half and so on.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks. I used to thread pipe for my Dad. He never called
> >> >> it a tap. He called a threader.
> >> >
> >> >A pipe "threader" would be called a "die".
> >> >
> >> >> He had two kinds; one was
> >> >> easy to use and the other one was a PITA for a little weak
> >> >> kid to use.
> >> >
> >> >....but he made you use the hard one? ;-)
> >> >
> >> Yea, how did you know?
> >
> >After a few years chatting, I think I even know your dad! ;-)
> >....not so different than mine (though raised in a general store he
> >was an EE prof).
> >
> >> I always wanted to do the easy one. That was fun.
> >
> >The machine shop where my dad worked had a pipe die set. They'd
> >let me use it (with supervision) for a project I was doing. After
> >I was all done the bastards showed me the power threader (similar
> >to what HomeDespot has now). ;-)
>
> I never saw a power threader operate.

Get thee down to the HomeDespot and wait around. It's an amazing
beast. I don't think they even charge for it, though the last
timeI used black pipe for anything other than clamps was,
<mumble>...

> > Ah well, the die wasn't all that
> >hard to use. One just had to make sure it was square with the pipe
> >before one started cutting.
>
> The one that was hard to use moved in a ratchet manner and
> had only one handle. The easy one had two handles with the
> threading cutters in the middle.

Hmm, the big one with the single handle was easier for me. One had
to make sure it was square though. Tetting it set up was a matter
of adjusting all the widgets on the die handle.

> IIRC, it had a lot of "holes"
> you could pipes in to. But I don't remember how Dad chose
> which holes to use.

Likely based on the size of the pipe. ;-)

> What was your project?

I built a wind-powered land cruiser (think ice-boat with wheels).
It was marginally successful. I really didn't have enough space to
use it. ...and it turned out to be quite heavy. Lotsa education
though.

--
Keith
From: krw on
In article <455CD715.BC78B2F5(a)hotmail.com>,
rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says...
>
>
> krw wrote:
>
> > rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says...
> > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> > > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >I'm asking " How about someone on that minimum wage job for example ? " as in
> > > > >.... they're on a minimum wage NOW - not at some hypothetical point in the
> > > > > future after their wages have increased.
> > > >
> > > > You keep ignoring the fact that everybody starts out at a low
> > > > wage in their working life. As they age, they should be getting
> > > > life experience that is salable for more money.
> > >
> > > Please stop evading the question.
> > >
> > > How does a ( young ) person on low wages get any medical tretment ?
> >
> > The same way their parents get medical treatment. For example, my
> > son was on my insurance until he was 23. Though he had his own when
> > he was 22, I didn't trust it. ...turns out his is at least as good
> > as mine.
>
> And if your parents are dead by that age as mine were ?

My father died when I was 12, so?

--
Keith
From: Eeyore on


krw wrote:

> rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says...
> > krw wrote:
> > > rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says...
> > >
> > > > Please stop evading the question.
> > > >
> > > > How does a ( young ) person on low wages get any medical tretment ?
> > >
> > > The same way their parents get medical treatment. For example, my
> > > son was on my insurance until he was 23. Though he had his own when
> > > he was 22, I didn't trust it. ...turns out his is at least as good
> > > as mine.
> >
> > And if your parents are dead by that age as mine were ?
>
> My father died when I was 12, so?

Were *both* your parents dead by the time you were 18 ?

Graham

From: lucasea on

"Don Bowey" <dbowey(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
news:C18272F2.4D280%dbowey(a)comcast.net...
> On 11/16/06 7:46 PM, in article
> 5ga7h.11243$9v5.8047(a)newssvr29.news.prodigy.net, "lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net"
> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Don Bowey" <dbowey(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:C1826EA2.4D243%dbowey(a)comcast.net...
>>> On 11/16/06 5:49 PM, in article 455D1544.E67CE661(a)hotmail.com, "Eeyore"
>>> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Don Bowey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> MG F would be unusual, given that there is already a MGTF.....
>>>>
>>>> Apparently the MGF predated the MG TF.
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_F
>>>>
>>>> Graham
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Excellent link. I wish they had explained the MG is Morris Garages, I
>>> also
>>> note that in 2002 the MGF was renamed MGTF. That's cool, but it should
>>> have
>>> been MGTG, since the TF already exists since about 1955.
>>
>> I don't understand the need to call it a T at all. It doesn't fit with
>> any
>> of the others, all being pre-1960, open fender design.
>>
>> Eric Lucas
>>
>>
> T just means "type."

I don't think so. The MG T clubs I found on the internet refer to them as
"T-type" cars. Even if it does, what did they imply by dropping the T, post
ca. 1960, for the A, B and F?

That said, I can't find anything that talks about the genesis of their
naming.

Eric Lucas


From: Eeyore on


lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote:

> "Don Bowey" <dbowey(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
> >
> > T just means "type."
>
> I don't think so. The MG T clubs I found on the internet refer to them as
> "T-type" cars. Even if it does, what did they imply by dropping the T, post
> ca. 1960, for the A, B and F?

I suspect it was seen as more 'modern' !

Don't foget the MGC btw. I knew someone with one once.
http://www.mgcars.org.uk/mgc.html

MGB V-8s may be better thought of though.

Graham