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From: John Fields on 17 Nov 2006 09:29 On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:26:47 +0000, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >John Fields wrote: >> What do you do for a living? > >How specific would you like me to be aside from electronic design and consultancy >( specialising in pro-audio ). --- That's close enough. -- JF
From: jmfbahciv on 17 Nov 2006 10:17 In article <455CD5F1.509B38FA(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >krw wrote: > >> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says... >> >> > <GRIN> The broken glass was awful before the bottle bill. It's >> > been getting worse lately. Perople areound here have too much >> > money. >> >> That's one of the intrusions into our lives I don't object to much. >> Maybe it's time to raise the deposit. I think MI has been $.10 for >> many years. The non-removeable pop-tops are another good idea. > >What's this bottle bill ? It was a taxpayer mandate to force all stores that sold pop and beer to take back the bottles and cans and set a price for the deposit of each. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 17 Nov 2006 10:19 In article <455DAC0B.109C43C(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >> >> ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >> >> >> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >> >> >>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >> >> >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>>>So, the insurance based model is broken is it not ? >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> It is now since the HMOs have become the preferred payers. >> >> >>> >> >> >>>An NHS would cure that. >> >> >> >> >> >> No, it would not. What Hillary was planning was a worse case. >> >> > >> >> >Two distinct sentences yet you imply an A means B relationship. >> >> > >> >> >An NHS _would_ solve the problem you have with HMOs. Whatever Hillary was >> >> >planning is not relevant. >> >> >> >> It is relavant because that's what the US would end up with. >> > >> >That's your presumption. >> > >> >You probably have a point in that vested interests won't want to give up >> >their profits easily. Whilst that attitude is tolerated, little progress is >> indeed >> >likely to be made. >> > >> >Which is why an 'American NHS' would need stong leadership to push it >> through. >> >> You still do not understand how the US works. Would it be >> possible to push your UK approach through the EU and have >> all members accept it? > >It's hardly needed since the member countries have decent arrangements of their >own already. You are not answering the question. > >I recognise it may not be easy to deak with the issue in >the USA but that's not a >reason to not even try. People are trying. A single payer isn't working. >The best place to start is by examining the idea >seriously ! People have. A national single payer won't work. /BAH
From: unsettled on 17 Nov 2006 10:47 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > In article <ejhtii$kd6$1(a)blue.rahul.net>, > kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: > >>In article <ejf0n4$8ss_001(a)s792.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >> >>>In article <eje1on$am6$1(a)blue.rahul.net>, >>> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >>> >>>>In article <ejck7c$8qk_001(a)s858.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >> >>[.....] >> >>>>Who are the "these people" in the above. It is obvious it is not the >>>>person I refered to. >>> >>>I was talking about the ones who work in stores in my area. >> >>Ok, so it is a different person. They guy I was refering to did >>"security" work. He wore the nice uniform and walked around in the >>parking lot. His whole purpose was to fool the neighborhood kids into >>thinking we actually had security. >> >>He also kept track of how full the dumpsters were. They were "empty", >>"full", "full full" or "full full full". > > > Right. A person who thinks that way needs a 1::1 input::reaction > type of training. A person who thinks like this cannot make > shortcuts the way we do in assessing a situation and figuring > out what needs to be done. If you give people who think like > this work that has a simple "if x, then y" constraint, they > will do that work very, very well. Anybody else will take > shortcuts and do the work sloppily. > > >>[....] >> >>>>You are talking of a different person than the one I was using in my >>>>example. The one in my example would not have been likely to be able to >>>>do anything like that. Some people with low IQs are gifted but not all of >>>>them. >>> >>>The people who work in our grocery stores do not seem to be >>>particularly gifted. But they do know about money. >> >>Those people are Einsteins compared to the sort I was refering. > > > You underestimate them. These people buy things. They also > are quite aware about x costing more than y. They made the news. Over the past few days they were standing in line waiting at store doors for the release of the latest Sony game platform. Other than making sure they had enough money for the purchase, I don't think they have any grasp of value. Betcha if you asked them how many had health insurance.....
From: Eeyore on 17 Nov 2006 10:51
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Jonathan Kirwan <jkirwan(a)easystreet.com> wrote: > >> > >> >Our society is better than that, I think. > >> > >> My folks didn't ask those questions. When we were sick we > >> went to the doctor. The Doc would take payment in chickens > >> or produce or something. > > > >I don't think they take chickens anymore ! > > That's because doctoring is no longer a small business. I don't think anyone takes payment in chickens these days. Not just doctors. Graham |