From: Keith on 4 Oct 2006 13:25 In article <eg0k2p$e61$1(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, lparker(a)emory.edu says... > In article <MPG.1f8d91f2b6b5c0e8989d5f(a)News.Individual.NET>, > Keith <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: > >In article <efugkv$4up$3(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, lparker(a)emory.edu > >says... > >> In article <nrc5i2tq8jr4k99aqofmbbesm7em13ktok(a)4ax.com>, > >> John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > >> >On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 18:28:11 GMT, "Homer J Simpson" > >> ><nobody(a)nowhere.com> wrote: > >> > > >> >> > >> >>"Lloyd Parker" <lparker(a)emory.edu> wrote in message > >> >>news:eftptn$c8p$2(a)leto.cc.emory.edu... > >> >> > >> >>> Tell me how many times the Bill of Rights says "people" and how many > times > >> >>> it > >> >>> says "citizens." > >> >> > >> >>SCOTUS has said that even visitors have the rights of citizens when it > come > >> >>to legal processes. After all, you expect their homeland laws to apply > in > >> >>the US would you? > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> >Correct. But they also realize that the rights apply only when those > >> >people are physically in the USA. Which is why some bad guys are held > >> >elsewhere. > >> > > >> >John > >> > > >> > > >> Well, Bush thought Gitmo qualified as "elsewhere" but the USSC said no. > Then > >> he held people in Europe, which is raising a stink there. It might keep > some > >> prospective EU members out even. > > > >Actually, no it didn't. It said only that Congress had some say in > >the matter. > > > No, Bush claimed the detainees could not sue in US courts and the case should > be dismissed. The USSC said they could, and heard the case. Not talking > about the way of trying them; talking about the right to sue. No, it said that the Bush plan hadn't been authorized by congress, but that they were free to do so. --- Keith
From: Keith on 4 Oct 2006 13:29 In article <4523D85F.43BBD99C(a)earthlink.net>, mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net says... > Jim Thompson wrote: > > > > I should know shortly what low-life job Eric has at Battelle... my > > guess is janitor ;-) > > > Are you sure they would give him that much responsibility? Keys to the place? -- Keith
From: Keith on 4 Oct 2006 13:30 In article <%8RUg.8425$GR.1728(a)newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>, lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net says... > > "Keith" <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote in message > news:MPG.1f8d949b973606e3989d61(a)News.Individual.NET... > > > >> > Oh, you mean like the Reagen and Clinton administrations did with Osama > >> > bin Laden when he was fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan? > >> > >> Sadly, yes. > > > > Another idiot heard from. > > You don't believe that former administrations provided substantial support > to two people/organizations who have subsequently turned against the US? > You need to read more, it's well-known. It's well known that the Quarterbacking on Monday morning is much better than that on Sunday afternoon too. What a maroon! -- Keith
From: Eeyore on 4 Oct 2006 13:49 John Fields wrote: > On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 18:06:56 +0100, "T Wake" > <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > > > > >"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message > >news:v673i2dusng3t5a82qt9hm7n8ve5p4t7ua(a)4ax.com... > > >> --- > >> "It" being radical Islam, > > > >Radical Islam can't be described as having a "single unified goal." > > --- > I disagree. I think the single, unified goal would be the > acquisition of unlimited power. Since you're incapable even of identifying 'radical Islam' your thoughts count for nothing. Graham
From: Eeyore on 4 Oct 2006 13:51
John Fields wrote: > I think the US's actions speak otherwise in that, clearly, we have > no aspirations to Empire. " the Project for the New American Century is a non-profit, educational organization whose goal is to promote American global leadership " http://www.newamericancentury.org/aboutpnac.htm > Had we chosen to we could have kept > Germany and Japan after we beat them, but we didn't. The *USA* didn't beat them and they weren't yours to keep. Graham |