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From: John Fields on 4 Oct 2006 08:55 On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 18:09:52 +0100, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > >"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message >news:nfq3i21ho617f25tnndifm0hlhpmo5onul(a)4ax.com... >> On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 01:58:29 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax >> <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>Gordon wrote: >>>> On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 00:47:08 +0100, Eeyore >>>> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> John Fields wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 19:59:42 +0100, "T Wake" wrote: >>>>>>> "John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> So what? With world domonation as its goal, one would expect it >>>>>>>> would strike world-wide, as the opportunity arose. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Whose goal? "It" isn't really appropriate to define the long term >>>>>>> aims of a >>>>>>> disparate group of organisations. Are "they" trying to dominate the >>>>>>> world or >>>>>>> destroy western society or convert every one or... >>>>>> --- >>>>>> "It" being radical Islam, the goal, in my opinion, would be to >>>>>> convert everyone to Islam and have them be subject to control by >>>>>> Muslim jurists, the goal being total world domination by Islam. >>>>>> >>>>>> Refusal to convert would result in death. >>>>> Do you often conjure up such idiotic ideas out of thin air ? >>>>> >>>>> Graham >>>>> >>>> Graham, what John said is straight out of their Koran. Repeated >>>> in many Surah, Ayah passages. For example; >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Surah 47, Ayah 4 When ye encounter the infidels, strike of their >>>> heads till ye have made a great slaughter among them, and of the >>>> rest make fast the fetters. >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> For the record, an infidel is anyone who is not a recognized >>>> Muslim in good standing. A Muslim who turns away from the Muslim >>>> religion is an infidel. Any person who belongs to and >>>> acknowledges belonging to any other religion is an infidel. >>>> >>>> Gordon >>> >>>Then how do you account for Iran having the second highest Jewish >>>population in the ME? According to your theory they should all be >>>Muslims or dead by now. >> >> --- >> They are "People of the Book" and deserve respect. >> > >As are Christians. Gordon did say "For the record, an infidel is anyone who >is not a recognized Muslim in good standing." > >This implies that Jews, Christians, Hindus etc are all subject to the >beheading. --- Yes, but because of the small amount of respect eked out to non-Muslim People of the Book, refusal to convert isn't an automatic death sentence. For all others, AIUI, it is. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer
From: John Fields on 4 Oct 2006 09:10 On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 18:13:10 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >Jim Thompson wrote: > >> "The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying 'Give me your poor, your >> tired, your huddled masses.' She's got a baseball bat and she's >> yelling, 'You want a piece of me?'" ? Robin Williams. > >I can see how that would appeal to your violent nature. --- All of your holier-than-thou "You're violent and I'm not." rhetoric is interesting in that you have a perpetual chip on your shoulder and are little more than a troublemaker. Statements like your "The real Demon is Israel." certainly don't sound like they're designed to decrease discord, do they? -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer
From: Eeyore on 4 Oct 2006 09:22 John Fields wrote: > On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 18:13:10 +0100, Eeyore wrote: > >Jim Thompson wrote: > > > >> "The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying 'Give me your poor, your > >> tired, your huddled masses.' She's got a baseball bat and she's > >> yelling, 'You want a piece of me?'" ? Robin Williams. > > > >I can see how that would appeal to your violent nature. > > --- > All of your holier-than-thou "You're violent and I'm not." rhetoric > is interesting in that you have a perpetual chip on your shoulder > and are little more than a troublemaker. I suggest you simply inspect what you write objectively. > Statements like your "The > real Demon is Israel." certainly don't sound like they're designed > to decrease discord, do they? Until more ppl see that truth, terrorism in the Middle East will continue to flourish. After all, the State of Israel was founded on terrorism itself. That's historical fact. Graham
From: John Fields on 4 Oct 2006 09:27 On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 18:13:29 +0100, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > >"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message >news:61u2i2pirp98lghk6samgbgfq4f9ria646(a)4ax.com... >> On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 17:05:11 +0100, Eeyore >> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>John Larkin wrote: >>> >>>> Graham has a pathological and mostly irrational hatred of America, >>> >>>Not at all. I am however intruiged how Americancs invariably bring out the >>>hate word the very second even the tiniest >>>criticism is voiced against them. >>> >>>It's not hate at all, more like despair at the crass stupidity of your >>>governmemnt and the ppl who elected them. >>> >>> >>>> and makes up things to support that need. >>> >>>Simply no need ever to do that ! >>> >>> >>>> So naturally he doesn't like to >>>> be reminded about stuff like WWII or the Cold War. He believes that >>>> the UK and Russia defeated Germany with little need for US assistance. >>> >>>The USA was around 3 years late to the party of course. I have little >>>doubt that Russia would have eventually defeated >>>Germany anyway. Germany could certainly never ever have defeated Russia, >>>the numbers simply aren't even remotely >>>credible. >> >> --- >> That's all Monday morning quarterbacking but, if as you say, had >> Russia defeated Germany without the US being involved do you think >> that you'd still be speaking English as a first language? > >And that isn't Monday morning quarterbacking? --- No, it's merely conjecture. A Monday morning quarterback is one who criticizes or passes judgment from a position of hindsight. Notice that it was posed as a question, which offers room for a reply. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer
From: John Fields on 4 Oct 2006 10:28
On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 18:06:56 +0100, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > >"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message >news:v673i2dusng3t5a82qt9hm7n8ve5p4t7ua(a)4ax.com... >> --- >> "It" being radical Islam, > >Radical Islam can't be described as having a "single unified goal." --- I disagree. I think the single, unified goal would be the acquisition of unlimited power. >Some radical Islamic groups which operate as Terrorist organisations in Asia have >no interest in Global conversion. --- But they still want power. --- >> the goal, in my opinion, would be to >> convert everyone to Islam and have them be subject to control by >> Muslim jurists, the goal being total world domination by Islam. >> >> Refusal to convert would result in death. > >Ok. This is just your opinion though. --- Well, no. The fate of infidels who fail to convert to Islam (not just radical Islam either) is spelled out in the Koran and is relegation to social insignificance, at best, for 'People of the Book', and death for the rest of humanity. --- >An equally valid opinion would be to >say the US has global world domination as it's goal. >It is after all only an opinion. --- I think the US's actions speak otherwise in that, clearly, we have no aspirations to Empire. Had we chosen to we could have kept Germany and Japan after we beat them, but we didn't. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer |