From: krw on
In article <45675408.11C7C33E(a)hotmail.com>,
rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says...
>
>
> krw wrote:
>
> > rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says...
> > > T Wake wrote:
> > > > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>It [China] can't be communism if they encorage capitalism can it ?
> > > > >
> > > > > They are not encouraging capitalism in lieu of their brand
> > > > > of communism. They are trying out pieces of it. Their
> > > > > field test site is usually the area next door to Hong Kong.
> > > > > If something works, they move it to Shanghia. I am assuming
> > > > > that the pieces that merge nicely with their political methods
> > > > > will creep throughout its economy.
> > > >
> > > > Which is why it isnt considered a communist economy (any more) by normal
> > > > people.
> > >
> > > It's more like a mixed economy run by a party that still calls
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > itself communist.
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> > Too funny! Dumb donkey.
>
> Pray tell what amuses you here.

If you can't tell, you are a far dumber donkey than anyone here
ever suspected. ...and that's going a far piece!

--
Keith
From: lucasea on

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> unsettled wrote:
>
>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>> > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>> >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>unsettled wrote:
>> >>>>>Ken Smith wrote:
>> >>>>>>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>How many communist economies exist worldwide ?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Zero if you round off to the nearest whole number.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Maggot brain misspeaks again. China, Cuba, North Korea,
>> >>>>>and VietNam spring immediately to mind.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>You think China is communist ?
>> >>>
>> >>>Yes. They have developed their unique form of Communism.
>> >>>It is interesting to watch when they mix a little bit
>> >>>of capitalism in certain areas.
>> >>
>> >>Little bit ????
>> >
>> > Yup. A very little bit.
>> >
>> >>It can't be communism if they encorage capitalism can it ?
>>
>> > They are not encouraging capitalism in lieu of their brand
>> > of communism. They are trying out pieces of it. Their
>> > field test site is usually the area next door to Hong Kong.
>> > If something works, they move it to Shanghia. I am assuming
>> > that the pieces that merge nicely with their political methods
>> > will creep throughout its economy.
>>
>> In the FSU and Warsaw Pact the common practice was for the
>> government to hand over businesses that were not doing
>> at all well to private individuals working for the
>> business, and allow them to operate it as a capitalist
>> business.
>>
>> When it did well for a while, they'd nationalize it again.
>
> Do you have any examples of this you can cite ?
>
> Oh of course you're ignoring me.

Yes, he's too much of a coward and hypocrite to address the factual
inaccuracies of his assertions directly.

Eric Lucas


From: lucasea on

"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message
news:98447$45672ede$49ecf18$343(a)DIALUPUSA.NET...
> Ken Smith wrote:
>> In article <ca70$45662b70$4fe7352$26883(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Ken Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <p_b9h.24807$yl4.15267(a)newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>,
>>>> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:c16c5$456482ae$4fe77c5$17631(a)DIALUPUSA.NET...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Lloyd Parker wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>[...]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>You've just gone over the cliff with the other lemmings.
>>>>>
>>>>>And you think calling people names is a valid substitute for discussing
>>>>>facts. Nice way to influence people to your point of view.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The sad thing is that this steaming pile of turtle droppings isn't very
>>>>good at it. At least you could hope that when he opened his festering
>>>>gob
>>>>something mildly entertaining would come out. Instead that ball of dung
>>>>he calls a brain can only manage to spew forth the same boring insults
>>>>as
>>>>before. A fixation on things like lemmings is fairly common in people
>>>>suffering from pneumoencephali, so that may explain the things entered
>>>>repeatedly on his drool-proof keyboard. Creations formed from
>>>>reanimated
>>>>vomit, such as him, are the festering canker on the leprid face of his
>>>>party. Those of us in California, at least, are up wind and need not
>>>>suffer the miasma-like vapor that exudes from every malodorous pore of
>>>>the
>>>>pustule he calls his body. Usenet has its share of maggots and vultures
>>>>but this one gags them all.
>>>>
>>>>What do you want to bet that this now starts a subthread about whether
>>>>maggots really can gag?
>>>
>>>Lost your edge, did you? Too bad.
>>
>>
>> No, just making a point about insults.
>
> Hardly. You selected a side in an argument that had nothing
> to do with you.

Leave it to Unsettled to fail to understand a point about insults.

Eric Lucas


From: lucasea on

"krw" <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote in message
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> In article <ek79n9$r6e$3(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, lparker(a)emory.edu
> says...
>> In article <8381b$456480b7$4fe77c5$17599(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
>> >Lloyd Parker wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article <ek1fi2$8qk_002(a)s853.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
>> >> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>> >
>> >>>This is
>> >>>the road to dictatorship and communism.
>> >
>> >> A commie under every bed. Wondered when the far right mantra would
>> >> emerge.
>> >
>> >Funny thing, we have an almost meaningless piece of a curve
>> >describing the increase in CO2 in the atmosphere which is
>> >dubbed a second order polynomial predictive of ecological
>> >disaster, but that's PC and acceptable. A warning that
>> >nationalizing private industry is a step on the path to
>> >dictatorship and communism isn't PC so it is subject to
>> >ridicule.
>> >
>> >Lemmings.
>> >
>> Who's nationalizing private industry? The insurance companies would
>> still be
>> there, selling supplemental insurance. Just like they do to Medicare
>> recipients.
>>
> Not under "Hilliary Care", the only seriously considered
> "solution". The entire US health care system (17% of the GDP)
> would have been nationalized overnight. It would have made private
> practice *ILLEGAL*.

Well, then it sounds like the problem lies only with those too narrow-minded
to see other possible futures besides the status quo or Hillary's idea.

Know anyone like that, krw, unsettled and BAH?

Eric Lucas


From: lucasea on

"krw" <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote in message
news:MPG.1fd114f98b36d7fd989c5f(a)news.individual.net...
> In article <ek7djo$r6e$29(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, lparker(a)emory.edu
> says...
>> In article <MPG.1fd0ee0dd9e02c81989c57(a)news.individual.net>,
>> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote:
>> >In article <eFE9h.9693$yE6.9309(a)newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>,
>> >lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net says...
>> >>
>> >> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:MtSdnXm0y5U4evjYnZ2dnUVZ8tOdnZ2d(a)pipex.net...
>> >> >
>> >> > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:ek47u9$8qk_002(a)s1002.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>> >> >> In article <456481AB.D9E20023(a)hotmail.com>,
>> >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
>> >> >>>> > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> >>>>What percentage do you think the government has to take?
>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >>>> >>>Medicare runs with about a 3% overhead rate.
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >>I don't believe this. That may be the Federal percentage. The
>> >> >>>> >>state percentage also has to be included.
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> >There is no state % for Medicare. You're thinking of Medicaid.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> No, I'm not. Who sends the money? Not the feds. The feds
>> >> >>>> send the money to the state who then disburses it. That is
>> >> >>>> two political levels of bureaucracy.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>An 'NHS' doesn't have these problems.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Once again, I'll ask you to think about administering your
>> >> >> NHS to all of Europe. That is how the US has to work.
>> >> >> We essentially 50 countries, each has its own politics, economy
>> >> >> and different priority lists.
>> >> >
>> >> > It is a shame you have such a low opinion of the American people.
>> >>
>> >> It's also quite a shame that she has such a lack of understanding of
>> >> the US
>> >> Constitution, to think that no national program is possible. There
>> >> are
>> >> plenty of national programs in the US, and they work fine.
>> >
>> >All (not operated through the states) are unconstitutional, as
>> >well. None come close to 17% of the GNP either, though you'd
>> >likely be all for nationalizing the oil companies too.
>> >
>>
>> Uh, did I miss the part of the constitution where you get to declare laws
>> unconstitutional?
>>
> Theoretically this happens only when there is actually something in
> the Constitution that forbids the action of the law.

OK, so pony up. What clause of the Constitution precludes a nationalized
health care system?

Eric Lucas