From: jmfbahciv on
In article <ek7d1r$r6e$22(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>,
lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
>In article <ek6p6d$8ss_003(a)s989.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>In article <4565BA66.1AE61881(a)hotmail.com>,
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm told
>>>> that a successful socialist economy is in Sweden. I have to study
>>>> that.
>>>
>>>It's called social democracy.
>>
>>I know. The fact that the word democracy has to be included gives
>>me a slight warning.
>>
>>> All of the European 'lbour' parties embrace the
>>>concept more or less.
>>
>>Yes and that's a serious problem when independent thinking
>>and action is required.
>>
>>>
>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy
>>>
>>>" The prime example of social democracy is Sweden, which prospered
>>considerably
>>>in the 1990s and 2000s [1]. Sweden has produced a strong economy from sole
>>>proprietorships up through to multinationals (e.g., Saab, Ikea, and
>>Ericsson),
>>>while maintaining one of the longest life expectancies in the world, low
>>>unemployment, inflation, infant mortality, national debt, and cost of
>living,
>>>all while registering sizable economic growth. "
>>
>>What bothers me about this is that there is only a few companies.
>>There are many ways to measure cost of living. If they included
>>all the taxes it would be very high.
>>
>>/BAH
>How about "quality of life"? The US usually ranks near the bottom of western
>nations. Why must it always be about money to right-wingers?

I am getting more and more convinced that this "quality of life"
comparison is getting to mean no obligation to make one's own decisions.
A high QoL means no decisions at all. This is getting to be more
in line with the way Islam works.

/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <45672C0C.6CBFFB07(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> I'm told
>> >> >> that a successful socialist economy is in Sweden. I have to study
>> >> >> that.
>> >> >
>> >> >It's called social democracy.
>> >>
>> >> I know. The fact that the word democracy has to be included gives
>> >> me a slight warning.
>> >
>> >And your fear of democracy doesn't surprise me.
>>
>> <ahem> The word democracy is included in a political party's name
>> for the same reason the word "science" is put into Computer Science
>> degree's name.
>
>Shame they don't have one for 'hands in the till' for the Republicans then !

What makes you think that the Republicans are the only ones who
take money? My state is now pure Democrat. They've had their
hands in everybody's pockets for decades.

/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <4567044E.D1284DFF(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>> Socialism does get communistic if the administration covers a
>> large geographic and/or population density. There isn't any
>> other way to "control" renegades who don't like to be told
>> what to do all the time.
>
>What nonsense is this now ?
>
>Where *do* you get these ideas ?
>

I think about what I read.

/BAH
From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> >
> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >unsettled wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> NHS has not
> >> >> yet withstood the test of time. Wake me up in a few more
> >> >> decades.
> >> >
> >> >60 years is enough to prove the point imho.
> >>
> >> You still have a private system in place. So the NHS
> >> does not work to the exclusion of other methods.
> >
> >So ? I'm not sure what your point is. Private health care
> >in the UK is for the
> >most part a 'luxury' service for those who can afford it.
>
> What is a luxury service? Timely treatment? Treatment
> when needed? No public waiting lines?

Things like private rooms with colour TVs.

Graham

From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> I'm told
> >> >> >> that a successful socialist economy is in Sweden. I have to study
> >> >> >> that.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >It's called social democracy.
> >> >>
> >> >> I know. The fact that the word democracy has to be included gives
> >> >> me a slight warning.
> >> >
> >> >And your fear of democracy doesn't surprise me.
> >>
> >> <ahem> The word democracy is included in a political party's name
> >> for the same reason the word "science" is put into Computer Science
> >> degree's name.
> >
> >Shame they don't have one for 'hands in the till' for the Republicans then !
>
> What makes you think that the Republicans are the only ones who
> take money? My state is now pure Democrat. They've had their
> hands in everybody's pockets for decades.

The Republicans do it on the grand scale.

Heck, they even go to war so Bechtel and Halliburton can pick up uncontested
contracts.

Graham