From: jmfbahciv on 25 Nov 2006 08:06 In article <ek7d1r$r6e$22(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >In article <ek6p6d$8ss_003(a)s989.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>In article <4565BA66.1AE61881(a)hotmail.com>, >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>>> I'm told >>>> that a successful socialist economy is in Sweden. I have to study >>>> that. >>> >>>It's called social democracy. >> >>I know. The fact that the word democracy has to be included gives >>me a slight warning. >> >>> All of the European 'lbour' parties embrace the >>>concept more or less. >> >>Yes and that's a serious problem when independent thinking >>and action is required. >> >>> >>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy >>> >>>" The prime example of social democracy is Sweden, which prospered >>considerably >>>in the 1990s and 2000s [1]. Sweden has produced a strong economy from sole >>>proprietorships up through to multinationals (e.g., Saab, Ikea, and >>Ericsson), >>>while maintaining one of the longest life expectancies in the world, low >>>unemployment, inflation, infant mortality, national debt, and cost of >living, >>>all while registering sizable economic growth. " >> >>What bothers me about this is that there is only a few companies. >>There are many ways to measure cost of living. If they included >>all the taxes it would be very high. >> >>/BAH >How about "quality of life"? The US usually ranks near the bottom of western >nations. Why must it always be about money to right-wingers? I am getting more and more convinced that this "quality of life" comparison is getting to mean no obligation to make one's own decisions. A high QoL means no decisions at all. This is getting to be more in line with the way Islam works. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 25 Nov 2006 08:08 In article <45672C0C.6CBFFB07(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> I'm told >> >> >> that a successful socialist economy is in Sweden. I have to study >> >> >> that. >> >> > >> >> >It's called social democracy. >> >> >> >> I know. The fact that the word democracy has to be included gives >> >> me a slight warning. >> > >> >And your fear of democracy doesn't surprise me. >> >> <ahem> The word democracy is included in a political party's name >> for the same reason the word "science" is put into Computer Science >> degree's name. > >Shame they don't have one for 'hands in the till' for the Republicans then ! What makes you think that the Republicans are the only ones who take money? My state is now pure Democrat. They've had their hands in everybody's pockets for decades. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 25 Nov 2006 08:12 In article <4567044E.D1284DFF(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Socialism does get communistic if the administration covers a >> large geographic and/or population density. There isn't any >> other way to "control" renegades who don't like to be told >> what to do all the time. > >What nonsense is this now ? > >Where *do* you get these ideas ? > I think about what I read. /BAH
From: Eeyore on 25 Nov 2006 08:23 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >unsettled wrote: > >> > > >> >> NHS has not > >> >> yet withstood the test of time. Wake me up in a few more > >> >> decades. > >> > > >> >60 years is enough to prove the point imho. > >> > >> You still have a private system in place. So the NHS > >> does not work to the exclusion of other methods. > > > >So ? I'm not sure what your point is. Private health care > >in the UK is for the > >most part a 'luxury' service for those who can afford it. > > What is a luxury service? Timely treatment? Treatment > when needed? No public waiting lines? Things like private rooms with colour TVs. Graham
From: Eeyore on 25 Nov 2006 08:27
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> I'm told > >> >> >> that a successful socialist economy is in Sweden. I have to study > >> >> >> that. > >> >> > > >> >> >It's called social democracy. > >> >> > >> >> I know. The fact that the word democracy has to be included gives > >> >> me a slight warning. > >> > > >> >And your fear of democracy doesn't surprise me. > >> > >> <ahem> The word democracy is included in a political party's name > >> for the same reason the word "science" is put into Computer Science > >> degree's name. > > > >Shame they don't have one for 'hands in the till' for the Republicans then ! > > What makes you think that the Republicans are the only ones who > take money? My state is now pure Democrat. They've had their > hands in everybody's pockets for decades. The Republicans do it on the grand scale. Heck, they even go to war so Bechtel and Halliburton can pick up uncontested contracts. Graham |