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From: krw on 25 Nov 2006 21:01 In article <4568E520.4329C50D(a)hotmail.com>, rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > > > krw wrote: > > > Think, dumb donkey. A controlled economy *is* communism. > > Where did I say controlled ? My you do like to snip out what makes you look so foolish. Here, I'll remind you: > > It's more like a mixed economy run by a party that still calls > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^ > > itself communist. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "Economy run by" => "Economy controlled by", dumb donkey. -- Keith
From: krw on 25 Nov 2006 21:01 In article <4568E433.B87DAB21(a)hotmail.com>, rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > > > T Wake wrote: > > > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > > > In article <456844BE.827AEA7B(a)hotmail.com>, > > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > >>> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >>> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > >>> >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >>> >> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > >>> >> >> > > > >>> >> >> >> I'm told > > >>> >> >> >> that a successful socialist economy is in Sweden. I have to > > >>> >> >> >> study > > >>> >> >> >> that. > > >>> >> >> > > > >>> >> >> >It's called social democracy. > > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> I know. The fact that the word democracy has to be included gives > > >>> >> >> me a slight warning. > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> >And your fear of democracy doesn't surprise me. > > >>> >> > > >>> >> <ahem> The word democracy is included in a political party's name > > >>> >> for the same reason the word "science" is put into Computer Science > > >>> >> degree's name. > > >>> > > > >>> >Shame they don't have one for 'hands in the till' for the Republicans > > >>> >then > > > ! > > >>> > > >>> What makes you think that the Republicans are the only ones who > > >>> take money? My state is now pure Democrat. They've had their > > >>> hands in everybody's pockets for decades. > > >> > > >>The Republicans do it on the grand scale. > > > > > > No, honey. YOu've been listening to Democrat rhetoric. One > > > of their tactics, is to get people to believe that there > > > is a serious class structure in the US and that the Republicans > > > are the "rich" who steal from the "poor". > > > > Not really what Eeyore said, is it? > > > > Shall we look at Halliburton and think about how it has got the contracts it > > is currently running? Do you mean to imply there was an open tender and they > > simply put the best bid in? > > It's been interesting to see that none of the right-wingers has responded to my > comments about Bechtel and Halliburton. They can't refute it, it would seem. The assertion has been made so many time I'm tired of answering it. You actually blew your own legs out on this by by admitting that that a Brit firm wanted a piece of the action, but wasn't allowed to since the work was being done with USD. Golden rule. -- Keith
From: Eeyore on 25 Nov 2006 21:02 Don Bowey wrote: > "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote > > Phineas T Puddleduck wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>>>> Although one could argue that the coal mining industry in Wales was > >>>>> reaching the end of the line in the 70's and 80's, due to cheap EU > >>>>> imports of coal - what was more galling was the fact that there were no > >>>>> contingency plans set up by government. Her government simply shut up > >>>>> shop in Wales without any investment in replacement/alternatives. > >>>> > >>>> Good Lord! You mean the cradle to grave gravy train ended? > >>> > >>> Mining was hardly a gravy train. > >> > >> Of course it was, those miners went down in fur-lined elevators to > >> recline in comfy settee's and watch daytime TV. > >> > >> Ignoring the fact that Welsh coal and steel built most of the British > >> Empire, of course. > > > >> (quick rule of thumb - Unsettled is an idiot) > > > > Quick rule of thumb: Marxist socialists like Puddledick and > > the dumb donkey come to the discussion ill equipped to > > deal with the issues because they won't read political science > > and economics texts, let alone wikipedia: > > > > "In politics, 'gravy train' refers to a depraved gorging on > > luxuries, since someone else foots the bill." > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravy_train > > > > In this case, the "cradle to grave gravy train" refers to > > a socialist government providing for its charges. It is a > > common enough an idiom among the well read. > > I believe the term from which some Wiki idiot stole that, is "cradle to > grave security." Every example of 'gravy train'I know of relates to some very profitable activity that is protected from competition in some way i.e. something that you're lucky to find yourself 'riding on'. There's no way that's true of mining. The political right just want to re-write history to suit themselves as ever. Graham
From: Eeyore on 25 Nov 2006 21:10 Phineas T Puddleduck wrote: > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > > > Yeah, she had some great ideas for making Britain strong by dismantling our > > heavy industry, ruining our mining economy and making the country reliant on > > FSU states for the import of basics like coal. > > > > For once I side with the Welsh here :-) > > Be careful, we could make you an honourary Cymry for that ! ;-) > > Actually a lot of the anti-English sentiment I see around me (which I > personally don't agree with) is unfortunately linked part and parcel to > the nature of the way Wales has been run from afar. The Treason of the > Blue Books angered the linguistic nationalists, and the destruction of a > heavy industry that had powered the expansion of the British empire in > the late 19th C early 20th C angered the political ones. > > Even though sometimes I see Welsh Labour making a real farce of power in > Cardiff, I am still a pro-devolutionist and I think decentralisation is > an important vector for change here in the UK > > One of the last modern attempts of revolution in Britain came from South > Wales, the Chartists. ;-) You just reminded me ! Whatever became of Charter 88 ? I googled it. http://www.charter88.org.uk/ >> http://www.unlockdemocracy.org.uk/ Graham
From: Eeyore on 25 Nov 2006 21:13
Phineas T Puddleduck wrote: > krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: > > > Just plonk the duck. He's never come close to write anything worth > > reading. > > But yet you have to make that comment. Something tells me there's a > little projection there, maroon... Terrible that people dare disagree > with you ;-) The US right seems to be greatly affronted by any disagreement with their stance. That suggests to me they recognise the fragility of their position. Graham |