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From: Don Klipstein on 25 Nov 2006 21:27 In article <4568EA1A.564BC718(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore wrote: > >unsettled wrote: > >> T Wake wrote: >> > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> >>Phineas T Puddleduck wrote: >> >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>>Have you ever read anything modern ? >> >>>> >> >>>>Thatcher was quite mad btw. >> >>> >> >>>"Quite" - barking towards the end. There is no love for Thatcher in >> >>>Wales, for example. Less then for Beeching, in faact. >> >> >> >>Her idea of running the economy using 'corner shop' economics was a total >> >>disaster. >> > >> > >> > Don't let /BAH hear you say that.... She is convinced Thatcher was the great >> > saviour of UK economics. /BAH wouldn't for one second think that Thatcher's >> > meddling caused all manner of long term problems. >> >> LOL it wasn't as though you had none when she became >> Prime Minister. > >Eh ? > >Thatcher presided over the start of the destruction of British manufacturing >industry for one. I think roughly same time as USA's Reagan presided over USA going from "World's Greatest Creditor Nation" to "World's Greatest Debtor Nation". And partly from tax cuts unsupported by spending cuts, but also from not fixing what USA's Democrats broke in the previous 15-20 years despite enjoying some time with ideological majority in both houses of Congress! The R's attacked the D's more successfully on issues where I think the D's were more on the right side! "A pox on both houses" - to be endured until more politicians benefit from solving problems than from causing them! I have the sensation that Republicans try mostly to shoot down the regulations that save the most whales, and that Democrats try mostly to defend the ones that cost the most per whale saved! >Britain now has to buy its planes, ships and even trains from abroad >just to name a few examples. >(Further sad news snipped) - Don Klipstein (don(a)misty.com)
From: Eeyore on 25 Nov 2006 21:28 Jamie wrote: > John Fields wrote: > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >>unsettled wrote: > >> > >>>Our post offices are also open till 5PM in most places. > >> > >>Is that supposed to be some kind of special US achievement ? Ours stay open later > >>than that ! > > > > > > --- > > That's because they're so inefficient they have to. > > > > > :)) good one! IDIOT
From: Don Klipstein on 25 Nov 2006 21:31 In article <4568E226.6C4193FE(a)earthlink.net>, Michael A. Terrell wrote: >Don Bowey wrote: >> >> Oregon has it's own medical plan. > > And a fine job they do, letting their mental patients run free to >make threatening phone calls to people. One has lost multiple ISP >accounts for threatening people online, been bared from the local >Wal-Mart, and arrested for trying to run over someone, as well. Are you arguing on basis of the actions of one person in the entire US "state" of Oregon? - Don Klipstein (don(a)misty.com)
From: Eeyore on 25 Nov 2006 21:31 Jamie wrote: > Eeyore wrote: > > T Wake wrote: > >>"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote > >>>krw wrote: > >>>>rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > >>>>>krw wrote: > >>>>>>rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > >>>>>>>krw wrote: > >>>>>>>>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net says... > >>>>>>>>>"T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>Once again, I'll ask you to think about administering your > >>>>>>>>>>>NHS to all of Europe. That is how the US has to work. > >>>>>>>>>>>We essentially 50 countries, each has its own politics, > >>>>>>>>>>>economy and different priority lists. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>It is a shame you have such a low opinion of the American > >>>>>>>>>>people. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>It's also quite a shame that she has such a lack of > >>>>>>>>>understanding of the US > >>>>>>>>>Constitution, to think that no national program is possible. > >>>>>>>>>There are > >>>>>>>>>plenty of national programs in the US, and they work fine. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>All (not operated through the states) are unconstitutional, as > >>>>>>>>well. None come close to 17% of the GNP either, though you'd > >>>>>>>>likely be all for nationalizing the oil companies too. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>What would be the point of that ? > >>>>>> > >>>>>>It makes as much sense as nationalizing health care; none. Why > >>>>>>don't you nationalize food production while you're at it? > >>>>> > >>>>>Who said anything about nationalisation ? > >>>> > >>>>What exactly do you think *NATIONALIZED* Health Care is? > >>>> > >>>>Dumb donkey! > >>> > >>>The NHS *does not* nationalise all health care. > >> > >>It strikes me that some people in this subthread are unable to tell the > >>difference between "National" and "Nationalised" and every time they see one > >>of the words it triggers the knee-jerk "socialism = bad" response. > > > > > > They've been well indoctrinated ! > > > >>Explaining that a "National" Health Service is a service which provides > >>health care nation wide on the basis of medical need not ability to pay > >>seems to be falling on deaf ears. > > > > > > There none so deaf as those who don't wish to hear. > > > > Graham > > > ah, you're finding coming to terms! IDIOT
From: Eeyore on 25 Nov 2006 21:32
Jamie wrote: > Eeyore wrote: > > T Wake wrote: > >>"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > >>>unsettled wrote: > >>> > >>>>Tell us, have you ever actually complained to > >>>>one department of government about another? Have > >>>>you ever tried to sue the government? > >>> > >>>The NHS get sued over here sometimes when things go wrong as of course > >>>they occasionally do in any organisation. > >>> > >>>It's not difficult at all. And it doesn't involve suing the government > >>>either, another daft idea you just invented. > >> > >>I have complained about various departments in the government on several > >>occasions. No problem with it at all. I provide a contract service to the > >>government and if they breach it, I wouldn't hesitate to take legal action. > >> > >>Unsettled seems to think the US government is inherently corrupt and that it > >>is not responsive to the will of the people. Odd really, as I thought the US > >>was a democracy. > > > > > > It [the USA] would appear to be a murky place with little accountability. > > > > They need to learn a few things from us. > > > > Graham > > > > > LOL, and what is that? How about starting with 'civilised values' ? Graham |