From: lucasea on

"krw" <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote in message
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> Another content-free posting from a leftie loon.

Oh, good, we're into self-referential postings. Douglas Hofstadter would be
so proud....

Eric Lucas


From: lucasea on

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> krw wrote:
>
>> Health care is not in the COnstitution as a federal power
>
> Are you always going to let a historical document rule your lives as if
> nothing
> had changed ?

In any case, he's simply wrong. Article V can easily be interpreted to
include health care, if one isn't prejudiced to preclude it in the first
place.

Eric Lucas


From: lucasea on

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Phineas T Puddleduck wrote:
>
>> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote:
>>
>> > Just plonk the duck. He's never come close to write anything worth
>> > reading.
>>
>> But yet you have to make that comment. Something tells me there's a
>> little projection there, maroon... Terrible that people dare disagree
>> with you ;-)
>
> The US right seems to be greatly affronted by any disagreement with their
> stance. That suggests to me they recognise the fragility of their
> position.

Yes, it is one of the sad outcomes of Bush's attempt at a totalitarian
regime that he legitimized this sort of "you disagree with me, so I will
assume you're a(n) idiot/traitor/lemming/(insert insult of choice here)"
argument. It's sad, because it's quite clear that the only way anything
useful is ever going to get done in Washington is by agreement between the
various differing parties. The polarization of the US population, whereby
the far-right feels justified in calling centrists "leftist loons", is
probably going to take years to die down.

Eric Lucas


From: neo on

lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote:
> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4568EDE9.72E1B5ED(a)hotmail.com...
> >
> >
> > krw wrote:
> >
> >> Health care is not in the COnstitution as a federal power
> >
> > Are you always going to let a historical document rule your lives as if
> > nothing
> > had changed ?
>
> In any case, he's simply wrong. Article V can easily be interpreted to
> include health care, if one isn't prejudiced to preclude it in the first
> place.

93 authors, 10334 replies. I would have been happy if such long
discussion had taken place on topic like 'what was before big bang'.

Jihad don't need scientists.

This thread is closed.

-neo.

From: lucasea on

<mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <MPG.1fd2dfb217939e33989cec(a)news.individual.net>, krw
> <krw(a)att.bizzzz> writes:
>>In article <45690236.179A2C4F(a)hotmail.com>,
>>rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says...
>>>
>>>
>>> krw wrote:
>>>
>>> > rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says...
>>> > > krw wrote:
>>> > > > rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says...
>>> > > > > krw wrote:
>>> > > > > > rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says...
>>> > > > > > > krw wrote:
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > It makes as much sense as nationalizing health care; none.
>>> > > > > > > > Why
>>> > > > > > > > don't you nationalize food production while you're at it?
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > Who said anything about nationalisation ?
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > What exactly do you think *NATIONALIZED* Health Care is?
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Dumb donkey!
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > The NHS *does not* nationalise all health care.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Private practice continues and GPs run their own practices
>>> > > > > essentially as they like. >> >
>>> > They simply receive a salary from the NHS.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > If they receive a salary from the NHS, their practices *have* been
>>> > > > nationalized.
>>> > >
>>> > > Not at all. That's a completely wrong connection.
>>> >
>>> > The boss is the government. The doctor is no longer controls his
>>> > practice. == nationalized.
>>>
>>> The doctor *does* control his own practice you numbskull ! The
>>> government / state / NHS does not
>>> own the practices nor does it dictate any part of their day-to-day
>>> running !
>>
>>Money => control. You can't be on a "salary" from the government
>>and work for yourself. You're working for the government, dumb
>>donkey.
>>
> The Golden Rule: He who has the gold makes the rules.

So by this rationale, Aetna controls what doctors do? Sometimes shallow
platitudes don't actually meaningfully reflect what happens in the real
world...all they really do is attempt to substitute for and shortcut a
reasoned discussion of the facts.

Eric Lucas