From: Ken Smith on
In article <e4ba5$4569fea8$4fe7485$23334(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
>Ken Smith wrote:
>
>> In article <C18DE6C3.4E65C%dbowey(a)comcast.net>,
>> Don Bowey <dbowey(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On 11/25/06 9:31 AM, in article ek9uln$lag$9(a)blue.rahul.net, "Ken Smith"
>>><kensmith(a)green.rahul.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>In article <MPG.1fd11c17f0518b5a989c65(a)news.individual.net>,
>>>>krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote:
>>>>[.....]
>>>>
>>>>>Whether you like it or not, radio is an interstate issue. Perhaps
>>>>>there should be some local control for ultra=-low power, but other
>>>>>than that 50 FCCs would be a nightmare. Can you imagine getting 50
>>>>>certifications for a piece of gear?
>>>>
>>>>I like radio just fine.
>>>>
>>>>Is radio "interstate commerce" if the broadcast can't be heard in another
>>>>state? If not, I don't think the constitution gives the federal
>>>>government preemptive control.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Since the FCC DOES coordinate and regulate all forms of radio transmission,
>>>what is the purpose of your post?
>>>
>>>Perhaps the problem is with your understanding.
>>
>>
>> No, the question goes to a core issue. A FM station in SanFransisco is
>> not "interstate" but is controlled by the FCC. Under some peoples reading
>> of the constitution, it should not be.
>
>I'm sure you can make a good case for that, however
>it belongs to a reguated class, so it is actually the
>definition of the class that you'd be fighting. It
>gets to be a hairy battle.
>
>OTOH there's also the argument that it affects interstate
>commerce.

Now to go back to health care. The drugs, the company that makes the
medical equipment, plagues and individual patients may cross borders
making the business of providing healthcare as "interstate" as the FM
radio. This it seems to me would be the basis on which the federal
government could pass laws about it including a NHS.

I hope to argue that the NHS would be no more unconstitutional than the
FCC is.

--
--
kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge

From: Spehro Pefhany on
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 00:44:01 +0000, the renowned Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>Ken Smith wrote:
>
>> In article <24c3f$4569e4d0$4fe775f$22843(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
>>
>> [... crack addicts ....]
>> >Well if the Brits want to help them so much......
>>
>> If it cost $10 a day to keep them off drugs, it is cheaper than putting
>> them in jail. The brits want to help them. This may be the more
>> practical answer even though I don't see how they can keep an addict away
>> from drugs.
>
>Relocation away from the cities could be an answer.
>
>Graham

Crystal meth is widespread in the US, even in rural areas.

http://www.uky.edu/CommInfoStudies/IRJCI/reports/reportsmeth.htm


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff(a)interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
From: Ken Smith on
In article <dcfe4$45688a2f$4fe7197$9197(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
>Ken Smith wrote:
[....]
>> Some fraction of it will be. The running cost of the casino contains lots
>> of places where wealth is consumed. At these places, the money still
>> flows but wealth is lost. The simplest case would be the maintaining of
>> the machines. The wealth used on maintaining them does not produce any
>> new wealth.
>
>Follow the money. The cost is paid to a maintenance man.

Not all of it goes there. Some goes to the parts needed. The money
changed hands but other than the repaired machine, nothing of value was
created. There is now slightly less value in the economy.


[....]
>> No, I never said anything about outlawing them. This is a question of the
>> right way to look at what is happening in an economy. You have to follow
>> the flow of wealth, not merely the flow of money. There are places where
>> wealth is created and places where it is consumed. Pushing needless paper
>> around was my example of a place where wealth is consumed. If you can
>> reduce the amount of needless paper pushing, you can improve the economy.
>
>I'll leave you in BAH's hands for this one. She's made the point
>that every piece of paper had, and may still have, a valid reason
>for being. It only took a couple of hundred years to get rid of
>the US "Tea Taster."

Yes and look how much things have gotten better as a result. We can now
get PCs for less than a weeks pay. Back then we could have only dreamed
about such computing power for so little money.

--
--
kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge

From: Ken Smith on
In article <ce8ce$45688adc$4fe7197$9197(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
>Ken Smith wrote:
>
[....]
>>>Actually it's even simpler -- your Medicare taxes are withheld every payday
>>>and I assume for most businesses now, electronically sent to the IRS with the
>>>push of a key.
>>
>>
>> That key is likely to cost a penny.
>
>Nope. You have to distribute IRS costs proportionally to
>their destination. The Infrastructure, etc, isn't
>free to some, and costly to others.

Huh?

>


--
--
kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge

From: lucasea on

"JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:b5gjm2lhjfg85cgogqf0ooj1aj37glfl0v(a)4ax.com...
> On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 04:26:34 +0000 (UTC), kensmith(a)green.rahul.net
> (Ken Smith) Gave us:
>
>> Industries that use
>>computers for things that could kill you usually have standards that rule
>>out Windows.
>
> You're an idiot.

While that may be true, he is correct.

Eric Lucas