From: krw on 28 Nov 2006 13:54 In article <456C8009.41F3B1E7(a)hotmail.com>, rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > > > krw wrote: > > > rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > > > krw wrote: > > > >lparker(a)emory.edu says... > > > > > > > > > > OK, Sweden. Saab, Volvo, Scania -- plenty of private enterprise. > > > > > > > > > > > > You do know that Saab is owned by GM and Volvo by Ford? > > > > > > GM and Ford are communist ? > > > > Given the labor unions influence, I=3Fm not so sure... > > > > But the word for today is =3Fsocialist=3F. Stop moving the goal posts, > > dumb donkey. > > So, GM and Ford are socialist ? Sweden certainly *is* (which was the subject, not FOrd or GM), as is most of Western Europe. -- Keith
From: krw on 28 Nov 2006 13:58 In article <456C7F90.C2B4AD7C(a)hotmail.com>, rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > > > John Fields wrote: > > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > > >> "Lloyd Parker" <lparker(a)emory.edu> wrote in message > > >> > > > >> >> Powerful minority parties were an > > >> >>anathema to them, as is seen now in parliamentary systems. > > >> > > >> Not at all. They saw the problems in England with a two-party system, and > > >> at least some felt they could be solved with multiple parties. > > > > > >Funny how it's turned out now then ! > > > > --- > > Why? We naturally gravitate to diametrical opposites. From time > > immemorial to the present we've had our time subdivided into night > > and day. From that we have evolved into creatures with symmetrical > > external bodies with mirror-image left and right sides. We also > > have good and evil, one and zero, right and wrong, republicans and > > democrats... > > So you guys have a 2 party system and we have a multi-party system. Our system is two-party, by design. The founding fathers were afraid of a parliamentary system where a minority party could easily hold immense power. > > In any case, the party system is broken now. Here at least. It may take some time > for you guys to catch up. Not going to change without a new Constitution. -- Keith
From: unsettled on 28 Nov 2006 14:09 krw wrote: > In article <456C7F90.C2B4AD7C(a)hotmail.com>, > rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > >> >>John Fields wrote: >> >> >>>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: >>>> >>>>>"Lloyd Parker" <lparker(a)emory.edu> wrote in message >>>>> >>>>>>>Powerful minority parties were an >>>>>>>anathema to them, as is seen now in parliamentary systems. >>>>> >>>>>Not at all. They saw the problems in England with a two-party system, and >>>>>at least some felt they could be solved with multiple parties. >>>> >>>>Funny how it's turned out now then ! >>> >>>--- >>>Why? We naturally gravitate to diametrical opposites. From time >>>immemorial to the present we've had our time subdivided into night >>>and day. From that we have evolved into creatures with symmetrical >>>external bodies with mirror-image left and right sides. We also >>>have good and evil, one and zero, right and wrong, republicans and >>>democrats... >> >>So you guys have a 2 party system and we have a multi-party system. > > > Our system is two-party, by design. The founding fathers were > afraid of a parliamentary system where a minority party could > easily hold immense power. > >>In any case, the party system is broken now. Here at least. It may take some time >>for you guys to catch up. > > > Not going to change without a new Constitution. The UK doesn't actually have a formal constitution.
From: Eeyore on 28 Nov 2006 14:36 krw wrote: > rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > > krw wrote: > > > rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > > > > krw wrote: > > > > >lparker(a)emory.edu says... > > > > > > > > > > > > OK, Sweden. Saab, Volvo, Scania -- plenty of private enterprise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You do know that Saab is owned by GM and Volvo by Ford? > > > > > > > > GM and Ford are communist ? > > > > > > Given the labor unions influence, I=3Fm not so sure... > > > > > > But the word for today is =3Fsocialist=3F. Stop moving the goal posts, > > > dumb donkey. > > > > So, GM and Ford are socialist ? > > Sweden certainly *is* (which was the subject, not FOrd or GM), as > is most of Western Europe. Fine. So socialism is no bar to commercial success then is it ? Graham
From: Eeyore on 28 Nov 2006 14:38
krw wrote: > rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > > John Fields wrote: > > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > > > >> "Lloyd Parker" <lparker(a)emory.edu> wrote in message > > > >> > > > > >> >> Powerful minority parties were an > > > >> >>anathema to them, as is seen now in parliamentary systems. > > > >> > > > >> Not at all. They saw the problems in England with a two-party system, and > > > >> at least some felt they could be solved with multiple parties. > > > > > > > >Funny how it's turned out now then ! > > > > > > --- > > > Why? We naturally gravitate to diametrical opposites. From time > > > immemorial to the present we've had our time subdivided into night > > > and day. From that we have evolved into creatures with symmetrical > > > external bodies with mirror-image left and right sides. We also > > > have good and evil, one and zero, right and wrong, republicans and > > > democrats... > > > > So you guys have a 2 party system and we have a multi-party system. > > Our system is two-party, by design. The founding fathers were > afraid of a parliamentary system where a minority party could > easily hold immense power. I have an issue with your idea of "immense power". Not very likely IME. > > In any case, the party system is broken now. Here at least. It may take some time > > for you guys to catch up. > > Not going to change without a new Constitution. If that's what it takes..... Graham |