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From: Cranks Reply on 6 Dec 2006 07:03 krw wrote: > In article <4575811C.AEDAD6A9(a)hotmail.com>, > rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > > > > > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > > > > lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: > > > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > > >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> >I rather doubt that it does happen all the time in the USA. I suspect > > > >>>> > it's just another of your fanciful folksy notions. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Nope. It's fact. > > > >>> > > > >>>I still don't believe you. Your 'facts' have been rather fanciful to date. > > > >>All of my brothers and sisters bought their own home before they > > > >>got legal (21). They were on their second or third car. They > > > >>worked and supported themselves. All of my relatives on my mother's > > > >>side had some kind farm business before they were legal. > > > >> > > > >>None were rich. None were even middle class. Most were poor. > > > >> > > > >>/BAH > > > > > > > >Teenagers buy their own homes, and "none were right -- none were even middle > > > >class." > > > > > > > >There's your problem -- you have no idea of what "middle class" means. Hint: > > > > > > >middle-class teenagers are not able to buy their own homes. > > > > > > Right. Poor ones manage to do so. One of the lessons you learn > > > when you grow up poor is how not to spend money. > > > > Dear BAH, > > > > the 'entry price round here for even a modest single bedroom apartment, never mind > > a house is the equivalent of £300,000. > > > > Please explain how a 'poor person' can acquire one. > > Live elsewhere. > > -- > Keith prick
From: jmfbahciv on 6 Dec 2006 07:42 In article <yrydnS7hKe5-TejYnZ2dnUVZ8tmdnZ2d(a)pipex.net>, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:el43bu$8ss_001(a)s1016.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <4575811C.AEDAD6A9(a)hotmail.com>, >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>>> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >>>> > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >I rather doubt that it does happen all the time in the USA. I >>>> >>>> >suspect >>>> >>>> > it's just another of your fanciful folksy notions. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Nope. It's fact. >>>> >>> >>>> >>>I still don't believe you. Your 'facts' have been rather fanciful to >> date. >>>> >>All of my brothers and sisters bought their own home before they >>>> >>got legal (21). They were on their second or third car. They >>>> >>worked and supported themselves. All of my relatives on my mother's >>>> >>side had some kind farm business before they were legal. >>>> >> >>>> >>None were rich. None were even middle class. Most were poor. >>>> >> >>>> >>/BAH >>>> > >>>> >Teenagers buy their own homes, and "none were right -- none were even >> middle >>>> >class." >>>> > >>>> >There's your problem -- you have no idea of what "middle class" means. >> Hint: >>>> >>>> >middle-class teenagers are not able to buy their own homes. >>>> >>>> Right. Poor ones manage to do so. One of the lessons you learn >>>> when you grow up poor is how not to spend money. >>> >>>Dear BAH, >>> >>>the 'entry price round here for even a modest single >>>bedroom apartment, never mind >>>a house is the equivalent of �300,000. >>> >>>Please explain how a 'poor person' can acquire one. >> >> Don't buy in the ritzy neighborhood. Pool resources >> with 3 others. There all kinds of ways to get started >> owning instead of renting. > >Hmm. Reading block appears to remain in place. > >Eeyore isn't talking about a ritzy neighbourhood. 300,000 pounds for a single bedroom is a ritzy place if I did my conversions correctly. > How do you share a house >with three other people when it has one bedroom? Bunk beds. Or do as the Chinese do and sleep in shifts. > >Personally, I do not doubt it is _possible_ in both the US and UK for poor >people to "do good" and become rich. I am 100% confident it is _harder_ for >the poor person to become a "success" in business. What do you call successs? Becoming a billionaire overnight? I'm not talking about that kind of success. > >I suspect this was true even in the weird bizarro time zone /BAH lives in >but it really is true in the "modern world." I'm beginning to wonder why human society has managed to survive as well as it has. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 6 Dec 2006 07:48 In article <3da7f$457628a4$4fe7071$17548(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: <snip> >They have to have reasonable credit. Not excellent, just >reasonable, and a provable income. Excellent for a growing >family or a retiree. > >The poor in this area can easily own a house without even >trying real hard. As we're observing here in this newsgroup, it is a sin to have to work for a living. The key for anybody to buy their abode is knowing how to work and how to pay their bills. /BAH
From: Eeyore on 6 Dec 2006 08:00 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>Dear BAH, > >>> > >>>the 'entry price round here for even a modest single > >>>bedroom apartment, never mind > >>>a house is the equivalent of �300,000. > >>> > >>>Please explain how a 'poor person' can acquire one. > >> > >> Don't buy in the ritzy neighborhood. Pool resources > >> with 3 others. There all kinds of ways to get started > >> owning instead of renting. > > > >Hmm. Reading block appears to remain in place. > > > >Eeyore isn't talking about a ritzy neighbourhood. > > 300,000 pounds for a single bedroom is a ritzy place if > I did my conversions correctly. Whoops ! That was meant to be $300,000. St Albans is a sought-after location on account of the relatively easy commuting to London and the reasonable ( I won't say good ) train service to do that. It's also quite a nice location generally but I wouldn't call my place ritzy even though it's easily worth $500,000. A newish house 50 yds away with 4 quite small bedrooms and maybe ~ 1500 sq ft total floor area just went for $800,000. Prices in the SE of England are pretty damn high not least because there are jobs here. Graham
From: jmfbahciv on 6 Dec 2006 07:56
In article <el43p1$83n$4(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >In article <el3o53$8qk_001(a)s881.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>In article <45742DA0.41C26436(a)hotmail.com>, >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> >Ken Smith wrote: >>>> >> > >>>> >> >> The so called "war on terror" has cost the US a great deal without >>>> >> >> really yelding anything much as a result. >>>> >> > >>>> >> >You're kidding. >>>> >> > >>>> >> >It's yielded greater instability in the word and more hatred of the >USA >>( >>>> >> >entirely justified this time ). >>>> >> > >>>> >> >What sheer brilliance. >>>> >> >>>> >> You both have been blind. >>>> > >>>> >Come on then. Don't be shy. What's your opinion on the matter ? >>>> >>>> The sound bite "war on xxxx" was misused so often that, when >>>> the real thing is happening, nobody pays attention. The fable >>>> about the boy crying wolf has become reality. >>> >>>That wasn't quite what I meant but I can't really disgree with that >>statement. >>> >>>To return to the original question. Do you feel this so-called 'war on >>terror' >>>has been useful or counter-productive ? >> >>It has been useful. Libya decided it would give up making >>atom bombs in return for trade. Saudis are slowly emancipating >>their women. > >Let's see, they can't drive, they can't go outdoors unless escorted by their >husband or a male relative, they get punished for adultery and the man >doesn't, their testimony in court is legally worth less than that of a man... > >If that's emancipation, I'd hate to see what you consider inequality! They are starting to get their driver's license. It will take a half generation or so for the mindset to change. Wasting 50% of their resources by keeping them under cover is stupid. This can only happen in a middle class mindset. I'm starting to think about how Islam started out as middle-class and rather ignored the working part. > >>Somalia is trying to sort itself out and seems >>to be tottering towards trade rather than isolation. > >Just a nasty little civil war going on. You should watch what they're fighting about. It's about their lifestyle. Every Muslim nation is going to go through similar internal discussions. One the methods used to avoid dealing with thorny issues is to point outside the borders and say, "it's their fault". > >>A lot of Americans, who now have to remain mute, have had lessons >>on what happens when politics and policies are left to >>people who undermine the Constitution. These people have also >>reexamined their priorities and threw the old ones out and >>have a new list. >> >>Slowly, albeit too slowly, the public health departments are >>back to doing their jobs and have started thinking about >>how to manage a pandemic. > >Maybe if the same type of people who were appointed to head FEMA hadn't been >appointed here... You keep missing the legal point that FEMA cannot do anything until it is asked to come in and help by the governor of the state. You really have to begin to realize that states are more powerful than the federal because that is how our Constitution has set things up. /BAH |