From: jmfbahciv on
In article <el4fqd$l1v$2(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>,
lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
>In article <el442h$8ss_006(a)s1016.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>In article <4575842D.9500EB(a)hotmail.com>,
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
>>>> > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>> >> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>You really should do all that; she's now doing the preliminary
>>>> >>running for 2008 Presidency. The Liberals in this state want
>>>> >>her for President so that Bill can take over again.
>>>> >
>>>> >Yeah, we long for those days of peace
>>>>
>>>> YOu have a very odd definition of peace.
>>>>
>>>> > and prosperity, of balanced budgets,
>>>>
>>>> Budgets were not balanced.
>>>
>>>They were a heck of a lot better !
>>
>>No, they weren't. Money was getting "saved" by stripping the
>>military funding.
>
>Ever hear of the "peace dividend"? We weren't fighting the cold war anymore.

And you swallowed the sound byte hook, line, and sinker.
The cold war didn't just stop. There will be side effects for
a hundred years. The war we're fighting now is leftovers
from WWI and WWII that were put off for later.

>
>>The social security chits were still getting
>>used. I don't remember the trade deficit ever going away.
>>
>
>No it wasn't. There was a budget surplus, period. Not figuring in social
>security.
>
>You know, there's this search tool called "google."

You want me to find web pages that say the budget was balanced?
I don't have to google; I'm seeing it in this newsgroup.

/BAH



From: jmfbahciv on
In article <nivbn29hk40uirrb26uoci89cdb12l7fco(a)4ax.com>,
Jonathan Kirwan <jkirwan(a)easystreet.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 05 Dec 06 14:00:42 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>>In article <qrc9n25pv8c1emhv84kpqn03e1rcvkgc3p(a)4ax.com>,
>> Jonathan Kirwan <jkirwan(a)easystreet.com> wrote:
>>>On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 17:16:43 -0000, "T Wake"
>>><usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>><snip>
>>
>>>One of the things that was strongly debated when the US Constitution
>>>was debated in the various States, was the concern about a trained
>>>federal military being used improperly. At least one of the
>>>federalist papers addresses itself squarely to this.
>>>
>>>They early on agreed that there would be no standing military system,
>>>at all, at the federal level. This was _because_ of that concern.
>>>They wanted sufficient equality of skills and force so that no federal
>>>military would consider the idea, at all. Of course, that's long
>>>since been set aside, with the US now having and maintaining a
>>>constant and well trained military force.
>><snip>
>>
>>You should also read a book, _The Navy, A History The Story
>>of a Service in Action_, Fletcher Pratt, Garden City Publishing,
>>1938, 1941.
>
>Why?

<shrug> I thought you might be interested. Forget I mentioned it.

/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <el4fru$l1v$3(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>,
lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
>In article <el451e$8ss_009(a)s1016.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>In article <el43co$g14$3(a)blue.rahul.net>,
>> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>>>In article <el278i$6qf$1(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>,
>>>Lloyd Parker <lparker(a)emory.edu> wrote:
>>>>In article <91fba$457234e0$4fe757d$18623(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
>>>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
>>>[....]
>>>>>Looks like you add ~1.067 billion to medicare expenditures as the
>>>>>collections expense. That adds about 0.4% to the overhead which
>>>>>is usually reported elsewhere. That increases their reported
>>>>>expenses by more than 10%.
>>>>
>>>>What? You're claiming 10% of the entire IRS budget goes to Medicare tax
>>>>collection? Absurd! It comes in electronically.
>>>
>>>He is suggesting that we spread the overhead over the monies collected.
>>>This is not an unreasonable thing to do. I doubt it makes enough
>>>difference to matter though.
>>
>>Take the programmer, who does your payroll, to the bar and
>>listen to him while he weeps into his/her beer. Then
>>reexamine your assumption about no difference.

>The standard in the insurance industry is what % of money spent goes to
>clients.

I see. You are not interested in the problems caused by new
tax law at the worker levels. That programmer would love
to bend your ear about his/her troubles. Those coders deal
with insanity, CATCH-22s, and impossible situations every
day. If you listened to one's woes, you might understand how
expensive government mandated collections can become.

/BAH
From: vjp2.at on

*+->atom bombs in return for trade. Saudis are slowly emancipating
*+->their women.

*+-Let's see, they can't drive, they can't go outdoors unless escorted by

When I was graduating Chem Engr in 1981 there was a story making the
rounds about a US engineer in Saudi Arabia whose wife decided to sun
herself in their back yard and was beheaded before her engineer
husband got home. Dunno if it is just a legend ot true.

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From: vjp2.at on
WALMART-CHINA-CLINTON JOINT-VENTURE

Walmart provided the deflationary cover (irrational exuberance) for
Clinton's disastrous economic policies via which Clinton built up
China as a formidable foe instead of forcing them to democratise.

WGBH PBS Frontline "Is Wal-Mart Good for America?" "Wal-Mart has a very
close relationship with China," says Duke University Professor Gary
Gereffi. "China is the largest exporter to the U.S. economy in virtually all
consumer goods categories. Wal-Mart is the leading retailer in the
U.S. economy in virtually all consumer goods categories. Wal-Mart and China
are a joint venture."

Clinton Quiet About Past Wal-Mart Ties By BETH FOUHY, AP Political Writer
Fri Mar 10 2006 NEW YORK - With retail giant Wal-Mart under fire to improve
its labor and health care policies, one Democrat with deep ties to the
company -- Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton -- has started feeling her share of
the political heat. Clinton served on Wal-Mart's board of directors for six
years when her husband was governor of Arkansas. And the Rose Law Firm, where
she was a partner, handled many of the Arkansas-based company's legal
affairs. Hillary Clinton had kind words for Wal-Mart as recently as 2004,
when she told an audience at the convention of the National Retail Federation
that her time on the board "was a great experience in every respect."..
Among other things, Hillary Clinton sought Walton's help in 1983 for Bill
Clinton's so-called Blue Ribbon Commission on Education.. Hillary Clinton
was paid $18,000 each year she served on the board, plus $1,500 for each
meeting she attended. By 1993 she had accumulated at least $100,000 in
Wal-Mart stock, according to Bill Clinton's federal financial disclosure that
year. The Clintons also flew for free on Wal-Mart corporate planes 14 times
in 1990 and 1991 in preparation for Bill Clinton's 1992 presidential bid..
In fact, Clinton proved to be such a thorn in Walton's side that at
Wal-Mart's annual meeting in 1987, when shareholders challenged Walton on the
company's lack of female managers, he assured them the record was improving
"now that we have a strong willed young lady on the board.".. "There's no
evidence she did anything to improve the status of women or make it a very
different place in ways Mrs. Clinton's Democratic base would care about,"
said Liza Featherstone, author of "Selling Women Short: The Landmark Battle
for Worker's Rights at Wal-Mart.".. New York State legislators of both
parties are promoting bills requiring businesses including Wal-Mart to
provide health coverage to their workers. And in October, New York City
passed a law, aimed squarely at Wal-Mart, requiring large grocery stores to
pay most workers a health care benefit worth an estimated $2.50 to $3 an
hour.. But Hillary Clinton, who as first lady proposed a wide-ranging but
ultimately unsuccessful plan to reshape the nation's health care system, has
had little to say about Wal-Mart's health care record. "That was a long time
ago," she said recently when asked if she had done anything about the
company's health care policies while she served on its board. That comment
was met with disbelief from Jonathan Tasini, a longtime labor organizer
mounting a longshot challenge to Clinton in New York's Democratic Senate
primary..




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