From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> >
> >> I read that to find out the latest propoganda. I find very little
> >> news that hasn't been soaped, rinsed, repeat. Usually I use
> >> it to see how news items are slanted, using the premise that
> >> I might be able to get an idea of their mindset and how it's
> >> stuck.
> >
> >And what's your conclusion.
> >
> >I find Al Jazeera pleasantly unbiased in fact, yet it gives an insight into
> >an Arab perspective of the news.
>
> Anything written is biased.

There's a significant difference berween the 'natural' bias if you like of
reporting within a context and the deliberate bias created by political dogma.


> That's why science uses the scientific
> method to produce its knowledge.

So how do find out what's really going on in the world ?

Graham

From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> >> Borek <m.borkowski(a)delete.chembuddy.these.com.parts> wrote:
> >> > Lloyd Parker <lparker(a)emory.edu> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Well, considering Europeans are healthier, are happier, live longer, are
> >> >> more educated and more literate, etc., maybe we could take some lessons.
> >> >
> >> >We do? Good, I am not moving anywehere.
> >>
> >> <grin> You detected the attitude, too.
> >
> >You're aware he's from Poland ?
>
> Yes. He's been giving us some the gossip from that end of
> Europe which is quite different from your end.

Us ?

It's only recently I've seen his posts in this thread.

Would you care to elaborate ?

Graham

From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> What will be interesting is how Poland's basic rules
> of society evolve over the decades.

They'll have to obey Brussels instead of Moscow now.

Graham

From: jmfbahciv on
In article <457C1298.27703654(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>> >> Borek <m.borkowski(a)delete.chembuddy.these.com.parts> wrote:
>> >> > Lloyd Parker <lparker(a)emory.edu> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Well, considering Europeans are healthier, are happier, live longer,
are
>> >> >> more educated and more literate, etc., maybe we could take some
lessons.
>> >> >
>> >> >We do? Good, I am not moving anywehere.
>> >>
>> >> <grin> You detected the attitude, too.
>> >
>> >You're aware he's from Poland ?
>>
>> Yes. He's been giving us some the gossip from that end of
>> Europe which is quite different from your end.
>
>Us ?

Those who are reading this thread.

>
>It's only recently I've seen his posts in this thread.
>
>Would you care to elaborate ?

Did you not learn a lot from those posts?

/BAH
From: T Wake on

<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
news:elh20o$8qk_001(a)s892.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
> In article <rLudnWxVuPVZleHYnZ2dnUVZ8qKvnZ2d(a)pipex.net>,
> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>
>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>>news:elgsom$8ss_005(a)s892.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>>> In article <9OKdncnQ5K4OnubYnZ2dnUVZ8qKvnZ2d(a)pipex.net>,
>>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"Borek" <m.borkowski(a)delete.chembuddy.these.com.parts> wrote in message
>>>>news:op.tkayhaxz26l578(a)borek...
>>>>> On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 14:15:25 +0100, <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> The way the Democrats tested reactions
>>>>>>>>> of the US was to go to Europe and give a speech that contained
>>>>>>>>> the ideas they wanted a reaction test. BBC would report on
>>>>>>>>> the speech. The American news media would report on what
>>>>>>>>> the BBC reported minus the fact that it came from some guy's
>>>>>>>>> speech. The politician would then watch to see how the
>>>>>>>>> voters of the US received it. What you saw a the Democrat
>>>>>>>>> platform had been vetted through Europe this way.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, considering Europeans are healthier, are happier, live
>>>>>>>> longer,
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> more educated and more literate, etc., maybe we could take some
>>>>>>>> lessons.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We do? Good, I am not moving anywehere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <grin> You detected the attitude, too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope. I was deadly serious ;)
>>>>
>>>>I may be wrong,
>>>
>>> You are.
>>>
>>>> but I think she thought you lived in the US ;-)
>>>
>>> Nope.
>>>
>>
>>Ok. I don't get what you meant then. I was giving you the benefit of the
>>doubt and assuming it was supposed to be funny, but now it just doesn't
>>make
>>sense.

Your previous post still does not make sense and this one does not explain
it. You are talking about something else now.

> If are able, put yourself in the context of the Poles. They
> died to get rid of their flavor of forced socialism.

Really? What are you talking about here?

> All
> people who lived in that area had to know politics and how
> to do politics from the time they started talking as children.

Blimey, there is nothing like a collection of assumptions, is there.

> You and I are extreeemely spoiled because we have no memory
> of having to do that. For you, I suspect your parents don't
> a memory of having to do that.

It is interesting that you say this, after telling me how Europe is
socialist and all of the UK's problems are because we are socialists.

In the UK, certainly when I was young, everyone was aware of politics so I
am not sure what you are trying to say here (if anything, you might just be
collecting words together).

> My folks do have a memory
> but they didn't have to fear their own government as much
> as other countries because we had the Constitution to provide
> the checks and balances.

When did they have to over throw forced socialism, with the aid of the US
Constitution? Interesting.

> If we in the US aren't careful, that will end.

You are throwing it away because of an imaginary fear.

> What will be interesting is how Poland's basic rules
> of society evolve over the decades. Other countries
> will also be interesting to watch.

Well, what will really be interesting is what _you_ learn from things.