From: Lloyd Parker on
In article <qhfmn2p8fhletr4k76crrcc4ad512eurhp(a)4ax.com>,
John Fields <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 22:29:36 +0000, Eeyore
><rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>T Wake wrote:
>>
>>> "Borek" <m.borkowski(a)delete.chembuddy.these.com.parts> wrote in message
>>> news:op.tkayhaxz26l578(a)borek...
>>> > On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 14:15:25 +0100, <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>> The way the Democrats tested reactions
>>> >>>>> of the US was to go to Europe and give a speech that contained
>>> >>>>> the ideas they wanted a reaction test. BBC would report on
>>> >>>>> the speech. The American news media would report on what
>>> >>>>> the BBC reported minus the fact that it came from some guy's
>>> >>>>> speech. The politician would then watch to see how the
>>> >>>>> voters of the US received it. What you saw a the Democrat
>>> >>>>> platform had been vetted through Europe this way.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Well, considering Europeans are healthier, are happier, live longer,
>>> >>>> are
>>> >>>> more educated and more literate, etc., maybe we could take some
>>> >>>> lessons.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> We do? Good, I am not moving anywehere.
>>> >>
>>> >> <grin> You detected the attitude, too.
>>> >
>>> > Nope. I was deadly serious ;)
>>>
>>> I may be wrong, but I think she thought you lived in the US ;-)
>>
>>That was my suspicion too.
>>
>>I suppose BAH couln't imagine one might be happy living in Europe ?
>
>---
>Paying about 40% of what you make as tribute to your government?
>

Getting health care, higher education, pensions, great public transit, etc.

Hey, those countries are democracies. The people obviously like what their
government is doing.

>Value added taxes which take away even more of your discretionary
>income?
>

In lieu of sales tax though, no?

>Taxes on motor fuels which keep you close to home?

You take public transit. Or buy a small car. Or a diesel one (lot lower
taxes on diesel fuel).

>
>Yeah, it sounds like a lot of fun to me...
>---
>
>>Time will tell I guess.
>
>---
>It already has. You've slipped from being the mightiest nation on
>Earth to whatever it is you are now, and why? Because your
>government still isn't republican.
>
>What is it about you all that you can't embrace taking
>responsibility for your own actions instead of blaming your errors
>on Mum. Or Dad?
>
>You have no hard constitution to speak of and, presumably, none in
>the offing so, ISTM, that what you want to do is play fast and loose
>with what you've got in place now and dodge the fallout.
>
>Am I wrong?
>
>
>
From: Lloyd Parker on
In article <4hgu44-8qf.ln1(a)sirius.tg00suus7038.net>,
The Ghost In The Machine <ewill(a)sirius.tg00suus7038.net> wrote:
>In sci.physics, Eeyore
><rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com>
> wrote
>on Sun, 10 Dec 2006 20:29:02 +0000
><457C6E0E.9645E7D3(a)hotmail.com>:
>>
>>
>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>> ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>>> >
>>> >In the UK, certainly when I was young, everyone was aware of politics so
I
>>> >am not sure what you are trying to say here (if anything, you might just
be
>>> >collecting words together).
>>>
>>> Your parents were not in danger of disappearing because
>>> you said the wrong thing.
>>>
>>>
>>> >> My folks do have a memory
>>> >> but they didn't have to fear their own government as much
>>> >> as other countries because we had the Constitution to provide
>>> >> the checks and balances.
>>> >
>>> >When did they have to over throw forced socialism, with the aid of the US
>>> >Constitution? Interesting.
>>>
>>> WWII.
>>
>> Where was this forced socialism in WW2 ?
>>
>> Graham
>>
>
>Most likely Nazi Germany. Nazi was short for
>Nationalsozialismus, which is translated usually as
>"National Socialist".
>
>The full name of Hitler's Party was "Nationalsozialistische
>Deutsche Arbeiterpartei", or NSDAP; in English National
>Socialist German Workers Party.
>
>Of course it gets complicated; according to Wiki
>there was also a Social Democratic Party of Germany
>(Sozialdemokratische Partei Deutschlands).
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi
>
The Nazi party was not socialistic after Hitler took over (he merely kept the
name). Any more than "The People's Democratic Republic of Korea" (North
Korea) is democratic. Yet right-wing loons always fall for the "Nazi =
socialist" line.
From: T Wake on

"JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:96kqn254tmhiu4qhqktekdfmsp0lg3viii(a)4ax.com...
> On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 04:24:39 -0600, John Fields
> <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> Gave us:
>
>>On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 06:29:53 -0000, "T Wake"
>><usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Ken Smith" <kensmith(a)green.rahul.net> wrote in message
>>>news:elign6$c4l$1(a)blue.rahul.net...
>>>> In article <2omdnY6K9eyGkeHYRVnyjQA(a)pipex.net>,
>>>> T Wake <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>>> [....]
>>>>>Hi Genius. Added to your cowardly snippage is a pathetic attempt at a
>>>>>straw
>>>>>man. If you hadn't been such a whining big girl and snipped the bits
>>>>>above
>>>>>you could see I wasn't talking about the debate over your idiotic
>>>>>political
>>>>>view point.
>>>>
>>>> I have an interesting theory that we are in fact dealing with an AI
>>>> program. This would explain the trouble parsing some statements. It
>>>> would also explain the snipping of sections and the resorting to
>>>> insults.
>>>> Both could be used as a way to cover the fact that the parser could not
>>>> handle the statements. With reasonable replied the errors would be
>>>> easier
>>>> to notice. Insults on the other hand don't have to make literal
>>>> sense.
>>>> The fact that the same ones seem to get recycled is some evidence for
>>>> the
>>>> theory.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I think I agree with you know.
>>
>>
>>---
>>???
>>
>>Speaking of machines...

There is a "now," missing - typing in a hurry. Sorry.

>
> The idiot crew has a side conversation going where they think I am an
> AI bot.

Cant think why. You might not be a bot and just be a total retard but at the
moment it is anyone's guess.


From: Ken Smith on
In article <457D707B.125ED31C(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
[.....]
>Secularism is speading. I believe what we are seeing may be no more than a
>religious backlash against 'modern thought'. I rather feel it's dommed to fail.
>
>As a kid I recall it was unheard of not to be Christian. Now no-one even blinks
>an eye about it but I would like to see our first atheist Prime Minister though.

The trend is the other way in the US. A smallish fraction of "christian"
thinking has gained a large following and significant power since the
1940s. The real threat (long term) of extremists is from the home grown
ones.


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From: Ken Smith on
In article <eljb7f$lt0$5(a)jasen.is-a-geek.org>,
jasen <jasen(a)free.net.nz> wrote:
>On 2006-12-11, Ken Smith <kensmith(a)green.rahul.net> wrote:
>
>> BTW: Do you know if the Galileo system has the same intentional
>> distortions as the GPS system? If not, it could be combined with the GPS
>> to make better estimates.
>
>USA turned off the intentional jitter a few years back. any innacuracies are
>only those inherant in the system.

Yes the SA is no longer in operation but this isn't the only "intentional
distortion".

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