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From: T Wake on 6 Jan 2007 20:00 "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message news:7388f$45a03a1f$cdd084a4$23525(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... >T Wake wrote: > >> "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message >> news:a054b$459fe661$cdd0854f$21620(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... >> >>>T Wake wrote: > >>>Lets put it this way. If the process for partial hydrogenation >>>were up for US FDA approval today, would it be approved? Probably >>>not. So we're playing catch up in a way, and I don't think that's >>>necessarily a bad thing. > >> There are lots of things available today which would struggle to get >> government approval if they were only just discovered / invented. > >> It is not necessarily a bad thing, but neither is it automatically a good >> thing. > >> Should all products currently available be reviewed in light of their >> ability to pass current health legislation and approval? > > Sounds like a good solution to me. :-) It is likely that beer, asprin, paracetamol and the like would fall foul (as well as obvious ones like tobacco etc). >>>The existence of artificial trans fats should be eliminated >>>altogether IMO. I don't care that much about the actual inclusion >>>so long as a skull and crossbones adorn the front of the label >>>as they do for other toxic substances sold to the general public. > >> Toxicity is an interesting concept but this is the pedant in me coming to >> the surface again. > >> Personally I would have no issues what so ever with a requirement for >> food producers to mark their products witha skull and crossbones to >> inform consumers as to the contents. > >> It would also have to apply to lots of other products which can be >> determined "toxic" though. > > Now you're cooking! Start with tobacco. There are many others. Lots. Following this purge, the supermarket shelves would look radically different. >>>>What do you mean by "totally natural product?" I can be pedantic [*] and >>>>we could argue that eating supernatural food is an odd concept, but I >>>>think I get your point here. > >>>I think you've flummoxed him. Good man! > >> That wasn't really my aim - unlike some people I have no "ill feelings" >> towards Eeyore and don't think that because I disagree with him on one >> topic it makes him intrinsically "wrong." There are topics I agree with >> him on. > > IMO he's "usually idiotic" though sometimes he gets things right. I > have no patience left for his sort because I was in a position of > having to deal for several years with an individual who came to > very similar stupid questions. BAH seems to think him redeemable, > I don't. It's ok, I dont think /BAH is redeemable so it balances things out :-) >> Oddly, there are even posts /BAH has made where I agree with her (not >> that many, admittedly) and even more strangely I have found I agree with >> Joe Bloe once in every thousand or so of his posts. > > I haven't run into anyone yet who is absolutely positively wrong > 100% of the time. In some cases it seems more down to chance than effor on their behalf. > I suggest we all have some threshold for what > we find unacceptable though. Eeyore was really quick across that line.
From: T Wake on 6 Jan 2007 20:03 "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message news:425d0$45a031ed$cdd084a4$23305(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... >T Wake wrote: >> "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message >> news:5a100$459fe8df$cdd0854f$21662(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... >> >>>T Wake wrote: >>> >>> >>>>"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>news:459F9E54.540DD7DE(a)hotmail.com... >>> >>>>>>Maybe. Personally I think of McDonalds as a choice in the same manner >>>>>>as >>>>>>(for example) Sayers. >>> >>>>>I don't know Sayers ! >>> >>>>Bakers chain. Make lovely pasties. (Of Cornish fame). >>> >>>I live in a region with a strong mining history. Pasties >>>not only famous here but there are actually specialty >>>restaurants that have only pasties and something to drink >>>on the menu. Grab your drink out of a glass front fridge >>>next to the register. >>> >>>Of course we have variations, including what is called >>>a Pizza Pasty, vegetarian pasties, and occasionally >>>some other variation plays in the region for a while. >>> >>>Pasty pockets are little 2 inch versions of their big >>>brothers. Handy to grab out of a bag to eat while driving. >>>They're sold in groups of 4 for $1.00. >>> >>>Great alternative to McDonald s, replacing lots of grease >>>with plenty of carbohydrates and not overwhelming the >>>individual with protein either. >> >> >> In most circumstances the pasties are a "healthier" choice than a Big >> Mac, but it remains a choice. I doubt anyone would suggest living on >> nothing but Cornish pasties.... > > LOL. Fact is the miners used to have last night's leftovers > wrapped up in a crust as their lunch. So it was their > mainstay, at least here, after a fashion. Although what you say implies there was at least one meal a day which wasn't a pastie (otherwise very soon the pasties would be made from leftover pasties until some singularity was reached), it would still be interesting to get some one like Morgan Spurlock to try and live on three pasties a day for 30 days.
From: unsettled on 6 Jan 2007 21:53 T Wake wrote: > "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message > news:425d0$45a031ed$cdd084a4$23305(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... > >>T Wake wrote: >> >>>"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message >>>news:5a100$459fe8df$cdd0854f$21662(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... >>> >>> >>>>T Wake wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>news:459F9E54.540DD7DE(a)hotmail.com... >>>> >>>>>>>Maybe. Personally I think of McDonalds as a choice in the same manner >>>>>>>as >>>>>>>(for example) Sayers. >>>> >>>>>>I don't know Sayers ! >>>> >>>>>Bakers chain. Make lovely pasties. (Of Cornish fame). >>>> >>>>I live in a region with a strong mining history. Pasties >>>>not only famous here but there are actually specialty >>>>restaurants that have only pasties and something to drink >>>>on the menu. Grab your drink out of a glass front fridge >>>>next to the register. >>>> >>>>Of course we have variations, including what is called >>>>a Pizza Pasty, vegetarian pasties, and occasionally >>>>some other variation plays in the region for a while. >>>> >>>>Pasty pockets are little 2 inch versions of their big >>>>brothers. Handy to grab out of a bag to eat while driving. >>>>They're sold in groups of 4 for $1.00. >>>> >>>>Great alternative to McDonald s, replacing lots of grease >>>>with plenty of carbohydrates and not overwhelming the >>>>individual with protein either. >>> >>> >>>In most circumstances the pasties are a "healthier" choice than a Big >>>Mac, but it remains a choice. I doubt anyone would suggest living on >>>nothing but Cornish pasties.... >> >>LOL. Fact is the miners used to have last night's leftovers >>wrapped up in a crust as their lunch. So it was their >>mainstay, at least here, after a fashion. > > > Although what you say implies there was at least one meal a day which wasn't > a pastie (otherwise very soon the pasties would be made from leftover > pasties until some singularity was reached), it would still be interesting > to get some one like Morgan Spurlock to try and live on three pasties a day > for 30 days. Local industry needs some good PR. I'll suggest this to them.
From: unsettled on 6 Jan 2007 22:04 T Wake wrote: > I personally think education is wasted on the young. For the most part, the brightest educate themselves, with "the educational system" providing general guidance and direction. In the US, public education was originally a mechanism to take children out of workplace competition with adults who needed to support families. Once we got them into school it became a matter of why waste the trouble everyone was going to, might as well of something worthwhile with the time and effort. Then along came Dewey who gave direction to this effort with his philosophy that the purpose of a public education is to make good citizens. It wasn't till Kennedy was president and the space race got underway that excellence in education became a matter of public policy, but even so, the teaching profession has yet to properly outlive their teachers.
From: Ken Smith on 7 Jan 2007 00:51
In article <eno667$8ss_005(a)s795.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >In article <enm0ff$6ka$1(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, > lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: [....] >>How do you like Bush asserting he's got the right to open and read >first-class >>mail? [....] >Now, whether you like it or not, we are at war. The news >reports have not specified which mails are in question nor >any facts about this news bite from CBS. It has been spelled out on several news casts. Here's the text that causes the most concern: ******* Begin quote ******** The executive branch shall construe subsection 404(c) of title 39, as enacted by subsection 1010(e) of the Act, which provides for opening of an item of a class of mail otherwise sealed against inspection, in a manner consistent, to the maximum extent permissible, with the need to conduct searches in exigent circumstances, such as to protect human life and safety against hazardous materials, and the need for physical searches specifically authorized by law for foreign intelligence collection. ******************* Note that it applies to all mail of any kind. The claim is one of quite broad authority since the definition of "exigent circumstances" is quite wide. -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge |