From: unsettled on
T Wake wrote:

> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
> news:epab2u$8qk_008(a)s795.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>
>>In article <45B61DBC.34732159(a)hotmail.com>,
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>T Wake wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>>Time has no hold on bias. People are just as biased about
>>>>>an event that happened 5 minutes ago as one that happened
>>>>>36,500 days ago. Your persistent America bashing shows your
>>>>>bias despite the internet and TV, so it isn't a communications
>>>>>and information issue.
>>>>
>>>>It is a shame you think I am bashing America. I think America has a lot
>>>>going for it and should be prepared to live up to the high standards.
>>>
>>>I agree.
>>
>>We will never live "up" to your standards because those standards
>>are based in a political philosophy different from ours.
>
>
> Until this thread, I would have thought you were wrong here. It seems that
> this one time, you are quite correct.
>
>
>>You keep
>>insisting that we do everything perfectly while you all set back
>>and watch us do the mess cleaning for you.
>
>
> And there you go, back to being massively wrong again.

I don't always agree with BAH, but there's a strong historical
basis for her statement.



>>>>Your comments seem to imply America is a barbaric nation, where
>>>>suspected
>>>>criminals are denied their rights and convicted prisoners are treated in
>>>>an
>>>>arbritrarily cruel manner. But I am the one bashing America.
>>>
>>>Curious isn't it. Americans actually seem to proud of their 'rougher
>>>edges'.
>>
>>See? The thing you need from us you describe as inelegant and crude
>>and not acceptable in polite society. Make up your mind.
>>
>>/BAH
>
>
>
From: unsettled on
mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:

> In article <c65c3$45b9471c$49ecf8f$1191(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> writes:
>
>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In article <45B7614D.A323D015(a)hotmail.com>,
>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> jasen <jasen(a)free.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 2007-01-20, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Please measure the miles between Israel and the Mediteranean.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>0
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Note the number of miles between Israel and the Suez Canal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>about 120 at closest approach, 140 from Beersheba, 160 from Tel Aviv
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Now consider that Iran does its atomic bomb testing on
>>>>>>>Israel soil. How long do you think the Canal will be closed?
>>>>>>>You may assume that Iran doesn't "miss" and take out the
>>>>>>>core of Egyptian commerce with the same single attack.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>at that range? a couple of months.
>>>>>
>>>>>Possibly, if all political winds blow exactly the correct way.
>>>>>I can't even guess the effects of no oil tankers delivering
>>>>>oil for a couple of months. From Thatcher's book about her
>>>>>government and the coal miners' strikes, England had about
>>>>>3 months reserve.
>>>>
>>>>Of *COAL* !
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes, child. If no oil is delivered, then your country
>>>will have to use its coal reserves. Right?
>>
>>Which they import. With no oil tankers, the coal suppliers
>>will not ship to UK because they'll need the coal in their
>>own countries. How long will it take to reopen the UK coal
>>mines? The Scotts will have to march southwards to keep from
>>freezing to death.
>>
>
> Hmm, we may have Bannockburn II.

I guess that's one way for the English to acquire
nice warm kilts. But where will they find the
real men to fill them? :-)

From: mmeron on
In article <a6f0d$45b96405$4fe73cc$1735(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> writes:
>mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:
>
>> In article <c65c3$45b9471c$49ecf8f$1191(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> writes:
>>>
>>>Which they import. With no oil tankers, the coal suppliers
>>>will not ship to UK because they'll need the coal in their
>>>own countries. How long will it take to reopen the UK coal
>>>mines? The Scotts will have to march southwards to keep from
>>>freezing to death.
>>>
>>
>> Hmm, we may have Bannockburn II.
>
>I guess that's one way for the English to acquire
>nice warm kilts. But where will they find the
>real men to fill them? :-)
>
Will have to import them from ex-colonies, I guess:-)

Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool,
meron(a)cars.uchicago.edu | chances are he is doing just the same"
From: Eeyore on


unsettled wrote:

> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
> >><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
> >>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
> >>>>"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>If you insist that these people be treated as criminals, then
> >>>>>>you should be ready to cope with an interruption in your
> >>>>>>life-style.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>It's been discussed here and voted on in the UK Parliament. The Police
> >>>>>have powers to hold terrorist suspects for up to 30 days ( IIRC ) without
> >>>>>charge subject to regular judicial review. After that time they must indeed
> be
> >>>>>released or charged.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Any longer was rejected by Parliament.
> >>>>
> >>>>IMHO 30 days is too long, but I suspect I am in a minority there.
> >>>
> >>>These people take years to plan their attacks. And you think 30 days
> >>>is too long?!
> >>
> >>Yes. You dont know what you are talking about here, you just felt the need
> >>to throw in a soundbite.
> >>
> >>How long do *you* think a suspected criminal should be detained before he or
> >>she is charged with a crime?
> >
> > I don't consider these people criminals. I consider them enemies.
>
> Wake writes these "questions" is a highly propagandized mode.

What on earth are you going on about ?


> The legitimate question would be "How long do you think a suspected
> criminal may legitimately be detained....." By using the word
> "should" he's altered the entire implication of his "question".

What on earth are you going on about ?

Graham


From: Eeyore on


unsettled wrote:

> The never have gotten over Ghandi and their guilt for
> their wholesale mistrating of all their colonials for
> centuries. There appears to be some British sense that
> if they spoil their criminals the government will
> finally be better loved around the world. LOL

You're quite mad !

Graham