From: T Wake on 28 Jan 2007 12:30 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:45BCCBF6.D0445A6(a)hotmail.com... > > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> I'm trying to address a mistaken assumption these people are >> making. Their idea of war is when two highly organized groups, >> each funded and supplied by a single government, meet on >> a field somewhere and shoot at each other > > That's pretty much it. > > >> thus, conflicts of any other nature has to be treated as criminal and >> apply >> a country's criminal law to each individual. > > And what precisely is mistaken about that ? BAH thinks that by repeatedly saying it, it becomes untrue.
From: Ken Smith on 28 Jan 2007 12:31 In article <45BBC336.FB4647EC(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >Ken Smith wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> > >> >> Not really. MP's company didn't manufacture the cases; they >> >> were ordered. That is not manufacturing them. >> > >> >Who did the mechanical design ? That's the important part. Whoever actually >> >bashes the tin is irrelevant. >> > >> >It's about good design you see and good design need not be expensive. >> >> It may not be "expensive" but good EMI shielding does tend to push the >> cost up a bit. It usually requires that the sheet metal makes a good >> connection at the joints and stuff like that. This typically adds a bit >> to the cost. It doesn't add as much as adding an extra cup holder >> however. > >The fact is that bad design for EMI costs more. > >When the CE business came in, PC cases suddenly spouted loads of >copper-beryllium finger strip to ensure continuity between panels for example. >Now that stuff isn't cheap. > >You don't see it any more. Cleverer design doesn't require it with interlocking >panels for example. You are talking about costs a lot more vs costa little more. Adding the interlocking tabs, the double bends[1], pressed fingers[2] and the wrinkles all cost a little more. This was my point. You can make it cost even more by making a bad design but that isn't the point. [1] Like this in cross section: AAAAAAAAAAAAAA BBBBBBBBB AAAAAAAAA B B [2] Like this seen face on ******************** ************ *** ************ ******* ************ ******* ************ ******* ************ *** ******************** >One of best tips I came across for good EMC design was the use of 'dimples' in >mating metal panels to ensure good ground bonding and the reduction of the slot >antenna effect. > >It's not expensive. Note that I said "not expensive" > >Graham > -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: T Wake on 28 Jan 2007 12:31 "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message news:970b3$45bcdaba$49ecfa9$6154(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... >T Wake wrote: > >> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >> news:epi5ci$8ss_002(a)s804.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> >> >>>I'm trying to address a mistaken assumption these people are >>>making. Their idea of war is when two highly organized groups, >>>each funded and supplied by a single government, meet on >>>a field somewhere and shoot at each other; thus, conflicts of >>>any other nature has to be treated as criminal and apply >>>a country's criminal law to each individual. >> >> >> Oh dear. The last two weeks of posts have vanished out of your memory >> now, haven't they? > > You have to read her comment *very* carefully. I have done.
From: unsettled on 28 Jan 2007 12:32 Eeyore wrote: > > unsettled wrote: > > >>Eeyore pontificated: >> >>>The Demon Prince of Absurdity wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Xians who advocate the killing of gays or abortion doctors are precisely >>>>as crazy as Muslims who advocate the killing of Westerners, and just as >>>>dangerous to civilisation. > > > < snip irrelevance > > >>>Arguably more so since they live in a society that has for the most part moved >>>beyond using murder as a means of imposing its will. > > > < snip further irrelevance > > >>Besides, Christians of all ilk live everywhere in the world, >>so you're doubly wrong. > > > Christian abortionist killers live exclusively in the USA. To use one of your favorite expressions, "Cite?: snip <patentable stupidity>
From: Ken Smith on 28 Jan 2007 12:34
In article <871wlfxp78.fsf(a)nonospaz.fatphil.org>, Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> writes: >> MassiveProng wrote: >[...] >> Furthermore, where it comes to this paragraph where you write >> "*I* say that *I* could make shielded case A just as cheaply >> as shitty shielded case B" you're not making the cases at all, >> someone else is. >> >> Did you graduate junior high? Your writing is at a level below >> what one would expect from a junior high school kid. > >Where did his all-caps go? He said he could MAKE the shielded case. > >Message-ID: <0t9lr25f2c3rkpbkpjrmmqgfv179o1ng4v(a)4ax.com> His company is under capitalized so he can't afford them. -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge |