From: T Wake on

<lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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>> > blah, blah blah
>>
>> I am sure it is, although "it is well known" is normally the last defence
>> of the crank who is talking nonsense.
>>
>> I am sure you can cite an example.
>
> What, of a crank talking nonsense? He has given examples of that in every
> post he's written.

:-) True.

>> You'd have thought you would have learned after such a life of stupidity.
>
> T Wake, please do think a little more before you write things like that.

Yes, sorry. It was a moment of madness on my behalf.


From: T Wake on

"joseph2k" <quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>
>> T Wake wrote:
>>>
>>> This is a logical fallacy. Everything you have said can be true and
>>> still
>>> it would not disprove anything YD has written.
>>>
>>> Insulting someone does not change the validity of their comments, nor
>>> does eliciting sympathy for yourself.
>>
>>
>> If I needed sympathy, I wouldn't visit the vast troll playground
>> known as Usenet. ;-)
>>
>>
> Top drawer reply Mr. Terrell.


To paraphrase your comments to me, if you want to indulge in a group hug
take it to Email.


From: T Wake on

"Ken Smith" <kensmith(a)green.rahul.net> wrote in message
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> In article <sPGdnWhqqOyW7LrYRVnyrw(a)pipex.net>,
> T Wake <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>
>><lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Ken Smith" <kensmith(a)green.rahul.net> wrote in message
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>>>> In article <4525651A.5E36C356(a)hotmail.com>,
> [....]
>>>> in prison being a deterent. If a crime is detered, it doesn't happen
>>>> and
>>>> the jail isn't needed.
>>>
>>>
>>> We've killed 200,000 Iraqis, and it hasn't deterred a damn thing. We're
>>> going to have to imprison a helluva lot more than that, if we want to
>>> convince anybody to do anything we want. So, now please go back and
>>> answer the question.
>>
>>Doesn't that imply killing them is not a deterrent? The problem is we are
>>killing Iraqis and the terrorist are Syrians.
>
> Even if the terrorists were Iraqis, the war has not selectively killed
> them. It has killed Iraqis more or less at random.

I agree. The flaws with a "war on terror," especially when fought against
suicide bombers is you end up killing _lots_ of bystanders.

>> If the Jihadists thought they
>>would be jailed for life and have to suffer eighty years before they were
>>martyred it would take a fair bit of steam out of their sails. (IMHO of
>>course)
>
> I don't even think they can call it "martyred" if they die of old age.
>

:-)


From: T Wake on

"joseph2k" <quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>T Wake wrote:
>
>>
>> "John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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>>> On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 04:42:27 +0100, Eeyore
>>> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>It's only when Americans get killed you get mad.
>>>>
>>>>You're quite happy for the USN to kill innocent foreigners by the
>>>>planeload and it
>>>>doesn't even 'register on your radar' does it ?
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Oh, the righteous indignation...
>>>
>>> The pilot of the airplane was told to change his course because he
>>> was an apparent threat to one of our assets and its crew. He chose
>>> not to. Kaboom. End of story.
>>>
>>
>> I am sure you are well aware of how wrong this is.
>>
>> A passenger plane is a threat to a US Warship? How the mighty have
>> fallen.
>
> I find that assessment odd in light of the ability of passenger planes to
> damage buildings like the World Trade Center towers impacts demonstrated.
> Equally to the point, when told to change course by any military, the
> refusal does not demonstrate reasonable judgment.

False analogy and lack of critical thinking has hindered your response.

A warship is capable of manoeuvre which a building isn't.

A warship which is threatened by a civilian airliner in a commercial air
lane can move away. I wasn't aware the WTC buildings had wheels.

Still, the "might is right" response is enlightening.


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<lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message
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>> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>>
>>> John Larkin wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 20:13:25 +0100, Eeyore
>>>> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> I give up--I was wrong. You weren't sincere when you said you
>>>> >> examine your
>>>> >> assumptions. You don't even admit what assumptions you make, and
>>>> >> what
>>>> >> political filter you put information through. You're no worse than
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> other knee-jerk reactionaries on either side of this thread. If you
>>>> >> are the
>>>> >> future of the political process in this country, we are in real
>>>> >> trouble.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Just a hint, though...you might want to try having conversations
>>>> >> with actual
>>>> >> mainstream Middle Eastern Muslims, rather than reading some
>>>> >> right-wing
>>>> >> claptrap written to justify the US's current bad behavior and
>>>> >> applying it to
>>>> >> all of Muslim society.
>>>> >
>>>> >The problem is that the above kind of thought is now being branded as
>>>> >traitorous
>>>> >in the USA.
>>>>
>>>> Absurd. American newspapers, public forums, political parties, and
>>>> public institutions are full of different opinions, vigorously and
>>>> publicly stated. A very few people call the opinions of other to be
>>>> traitorous, and that's allowed free speech, too.
>>>>
>>>> You say so much about the USA and you know so little.
>>>
>>> So why are the Republicans branding criticism as treasonous ?
>>
>> Not all Republicans.
>
> Nah, just the President, that's all. Nobody important.

Still not all of them. :-)