From: T Wake on

"JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 7 Oct 2006 10:23:30 +0100, "T Wake"
> <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> Gave us:
>
>>
>>"JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
>>news:l5vdi2lvneofr8ug993t476pbqc2c89jo9(a)4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 20:20:54 +0100, "T Wake"
>>> <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> Gave us:
>>>
>>>>What happened on the 9th of November?
>>>
>>>
>>> You're an idiot.
>>
>>Is 9th November "you're an idiot day?"
>>
>>Wow. You must really love it. Do people buy you presents as well?
>>
> You're a total retard.

Oh boy, you are a real card aren't you. What do you do for an encore? Eat
your own vomit?


From: John Larkin on
On Sat, 7 Oct 2006 18:16:32 +0100, "T Wake"
<usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:

>
><lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>> "JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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>>> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 21:59:40 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> Gave us:
>>>
>>>>Yep. And isn't it also ironic that the ouster of those very commies has
>>>>been one of the destabilizing forces in the world that may well have
>>>>furthered the current mess?
>>>
>>>
>>> You're an idiot.
>>
>> Ya gotta love his nuanced and repetitive view of the world, ladies and
>> gentlemen.
>
>He has made a lot of posts, he must be getting to the limit of words he can
>use. This explains the repeating cycles.
>

But he regularly changes his nym, and gets to start afresh.

John

From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>
> >Who is this they of which you speak?
>
> Islamic extremists. Bin Laden has declared it. Iran has
> declared this goal. Clerics wish to remove all vestiges
> of Western civilzation; this includes no freedom of the press,
> TV and probably all computers (anything with a picture of a human
> being), all women in chattel (this is 50% of the labor force),
> public schools will shut down, private property will no longer
> be allowed, banks will be closed so trade will have to revert
> back to person-to-person bartering.

This is simply untrue.

Where did you get this idea ?

Graham

From: T Wake on

<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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> In article <XdOdnQtNpOi5M7vYnZ2dnUVZ8s-dnZ2d(a)pipex.net>,
> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>
>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>>news:eg58oe$8ss_016(a)s831.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>>> In article <Va9Vg.19654$Ij.16215(a)newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>,
>>> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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>>>>> The oddity of this, which I cannot find in past history, is that
>>>>> the extremists are already doing this to themselves.
>>>>
>>>>Oh, the innumeracy. At the rate that they're doing that, it will take
>>>>at
>>>>least an order of magnitude longer than all of recorded human history to
>>>>reach the stated endpoint. In the meantime, how about if we stop giving
>>>>them reasons to do so?
>>>
>>> If you had your way, everybody would convert to Islam.
>>
>>Sorry, where did that assumption come from?
>
> You said to stop giving the extremists reasons; they expect
> all to convert to Islam for the first step.

No, not all extremists. Some want Israel to cease to exist. They dont care
what religion the rest of the world is. Some want the US to not support
Isreal, they dont care what religion the country is.

Dont make sweeping assumptions about the enemy, it doesnt help.

>>> OK.
>>> Assume that. Since the factions are already killing each
>>> other, what makes you think that they will stop killing and
>>> murdering and destroying all infrastructure? The goal
>>> is to destroy Western infrastructure.
>>
>>Says who?
>
> The extremists say so.
>>
>>More importantly, whose goal is this? Is this _all_ "they" want to do?
>
> Apparently. It does not appear that they've given any thought
> to consequences of such destruction. In Egypt, the extremists
> over the past century killed and had goals of being power.
> When one of their members got into power, all of sudden this
> member found that the ideals couldn't be implemented in real
> life.

Which shows, the extremists are unlikly to be able to make any _real_
changes.

>>> This means bridges,
>>> roads, computers, any science results and their applications,
>>> white collar jobs, blue collar jobs, manufacturing plants,
>>> food processing plants, etc. Do I need to think of more to
>>> list?
>>
>>Well, no, but some supporting evidence of this being the "goal" of "them"
>>would be nice.
>
> Afghanistan. All of Bin Laden's pronouncements. Wannabe clerics.
> Kids go to school and are taught how to kill and maim rather than
> reading and writing and science. The absence of any protests to
> this kind of behaviour from the Islamic world.
>
> Or doesn't actions in real life count as evidence?

Afghanistan is not a representative example of an Islamic nation. Bin Laden
is a person not a nation. Other Islamic nations did protest about
Afghanistan's descent. Islamic organisations make overt statements
disagreeing with terrorism. Saying "The absence of any protests to this kind
of behaviour from the Islamic world" is totally false.


From: T Wake on

"JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 10:47:21 +0200, "Frithiof Andreas Jensen"
> <frithiof.jensen(a)die_spammer_die.ericsson.com> Gave us:
>
>>Oh "we" Got It - Problem it that the people that make decisions for "us"
>>all
>>have their own agenda; which does not involve more freedom and a better
>>life for
>>"us". It does for "them", though.
>
>
> You're an idiot. Your header info proves it. What? Did Ericsson
> charge you too much for service such that you have to declare death
> on them? You are about as retarded as it gets, little boy.

How stupid are you?