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From: jmfbahciv on 11 Oct 2006 06:04 In article <452BA71F.FB6D6B40(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> In article <YtsWg.12731$6S3.12584(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> > >> ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >> >news:egd9oe$8qk_008(a)s891.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> >>>>> >> >>>>>So why aren't we devoting all our resources to getting him? >> >>>> >> >>>> Because this intent to destroy all traces of Western civilization >> >>>> is not isolated to one human being. >> >>> >> >>>Where do you *get* these assumptions??? >> >> >> >> What assumptions? Islamic extremists wish to kill me and mine? >> >> They've told me so. Furthermore, their statements were not >> >> empty threats; they demonstrated their intent. >> > >> >No, they did nothing of the kind. They demonstrated their intent to destroy >> >three or four buildings. It's a huge leap of faith (i.e., assumption) to >> >extrapolate from this that they are "intent to destroy all traces of Western >> >civilization." >> >> Which word do you have troubles with meaning: World, Trade, or Center? > >Like he said. A few buildings. Do have any idea the trade that was going on inside them? There were whole companies wiped out. These people had a collective knowledge about trading and how to get it done that could not be duplicated overnight. The real work involving trade is what gets the food to the shelves in time for you to buy it before it rots. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 11 Oct 2006 06:06 In article <3PPWg.13199$6S3.776(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:452BA71F.FB6D6B40(a)hotmail.com... >> >> >> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>> In article <YtsWg.12731$6S3.12584(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, >>> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> > >>> ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>> >news:egd9oe$8qk_008(a)s891.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>So why aren't we devoting all our resources to getting him? >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Because this intent to destroy all traces of Western civilization >>> >>>> is not isolated to one human being. >>> >>> >>> >>>Where do you *get* these assumptions??? >>> >> >>> >> What assumptions? Islamic extremists wish to kill me and mine? >>> >> They've told me so. Furthermore, their statements were not >>> >> empty threats; they demonstrated their intent. >>> > >>> >No, they did nothing of the kind. They demonstrated their intent to >>> >destroy >>> >three or four buildings. It's a huge leap of faith (i.e., assumption) >>> >to >>> >extrapolate from this that they are "intent to destroy all traces of >>> >Western >>> >civilization." >>> >>> Which word do you have troubles with meaning: World, Trade, or Center? >> >> Like he said. A few buildings. > >....that just happened to be the highest buildings on the NYC skyline--i.e., >the easiest to hit, and the most visible to destroy. > >I could build a building called The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, >and that doesn't mean that a terrorist that knocks it down would be intent >on destroying all restaurants and universes. They're just buildings with >names. > >BAH's condescension aside, I am willing to concede that knocking down the >two biggest World Trade Center buildings probably was symbolic of their >dislike of Western society. However, it is a *huge* leap of faith (i.e., >assumption) to go from knocking down two buildings as an act of dislike, to >an "intent to destroy all traces of Western Civilization." It's exactly >these giant leaps that the US public must not let the Bush Administration >and his party get away with, in the name of using fear to hold onto control >of the country. I will once again remind you that the US government has >changed our lifestyle post 9/11 *far* more than the terrorists have. You people keep focusing on the buildings. Why don't you spend a nanosecond thinking about the people who were killed, the trade that was interrupted and the destruction of the knowledge of how to do all this stuff? This includes data bases such as orders, invoices, names, dates, phone numbers, contacts. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 11 Oct 2006 06:10 In article <SIPWg.13196$6S3.11745(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:egfp39$8ss_001(a)s934.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <YtsWg.12731$6S3.12584(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> >>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>news:egd9oe$8qk_008(a)s891.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>So why aren't we devoting all our resources to getting him? >>>>>> >>>>>> Because this intent to destroy all traces of Western civilization >>>>>> is not isolated to one human being. >>>>> >>>>>Where do you *get* these assumptions??? >>>> >>>> What assumptions? Islamic extremists wish to kill me and mine? >>>> They've told me so. Furthermore, their statements were not >>>> empty threats; they demonstrated their intent. >>> >>>No, they did nothing of the kind. They demonstrated their intent to >>>destroy >>>three or four buildings. It's a huge leap of faith (i.e., assumption) to >>>extrapolate from this that they are "intent to destroy all traces of >>>Western >>>civilization." >> >> Which word do you have troubles with meaning: World, Trade, or Center? >> >> >>> >>>As I've said before, you don't even know what your assumptions are, and >>>how >>>ludicrous the premises on which you predicate them. >> >> Fine. I started with actual events, then learned the history >> and made conclusions based on that learning and how people >> act and think. > > >And there's another crux to your fallacious assumptions. Are you willing to >admit that people in a very different society from ours (Middle Eastern >Islam--and this is a drastic oversimplification, for the sake of brevity) >act and think in very different ways than you do? I don't have to admit it; I know the culture is different. Haven't I just been telling you repeatedly that I've been learning about it? Now, since they do think in very different ways than you and I do, why are you assuming that their peace-loving is the same as yours? /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 11 Oct 2006 06:12 In article <VfKdnfOyDt1cTbbYRVnytg(a)pipex.net>, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:egfp39$8ss_001(a)s934.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <YtsWg.12731$6S3.12584(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> >>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>news:egd9oe$8qk_008(a)s891.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>So why aren't we devoting all our resources to getting him? >>>>>> >>>>>> Because this intent to destroy all traces of Western civilization >>>>>> is not isolated to one human being. >>>>> >>>>>Where do you *get* these assumptions??? >>>> >>>> What assumptions? Islamic extremists wish to kill me and mine? >>>> They've told me so. Furthermore, their statements were not >>>> empty threats; they demonstrated their intent. >>> >>>No, they did nothing of the kind. They demonstrated their intent to >>>destroy >>>three or four buildings. It's a huge leap of faith (i.e., assumption) to >>>extrapolate from this that they are "intent to destroy all traces of >>>Western >>>civilization." >> >> Which word do you have troubles with meaning: World, Trade, or Center? > >Was it really the economic centre of the world? It was a center; it was an important center. Or was it a grandiose name >applied to some trade buildings? I figured you would take this stance. Avoiding reality doesn't make it go away. The best thing you can do is to stay out of the way of people who will be dealing with the messes. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 11 Oct 2006 06:20
In article <452BB54D.24E6C679(a)earthlink.net>, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> In article <452B8438.3468BE7B(a)earthlink.net>, >> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >> >> In article <kmnki2t5q21v3q4unpq99qqsner3pu6mhr(a)4ax.com>, >> >> John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >> >> >On Mon, 09 Oct 06 10:36:40 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> > >> >> >>If your grocery store carries only one kind of apple, it >> >> >>doesn't matter how many other vareities you want if it >> >> >>is the only store carrying apples. The only way you can >> >> >>get him to carry the variety you want is to convince him. >> >> >>This is called changing his mindset. Until you do that, >> >> >>there is no other option available to you for getting >> >> >>the apple you want. >> >> > >> >> >Just go to another store! That's what I do. >> >> >> >> There aren't any other stores. There won't be any other >> >> stores. You are assuming that capitalism, a.k.a. >> >> competition, is allowed. >> >> >> >> /BAH >> > >> > >> > I would do the same thing I do right now. If I can't find what I >> >want, I don't buy anything. I walk out of a lot of stores, empty handed >> >because what I came for wasn't in stock. As far as apples go, I haven't >> >seen one fit to eat in four months, so its been that long since I've had >> >one. >> >> Yea, I know. There was something weird about the apple market >> this year. Macs just got stocked two weeks ago. >> >> > A dollar a pound for apples the size of a large chicken egg? >> >Forget it! There isn't enough to take two good bites, so someone else >> >can buy them. >> >> My tree produced apples the size of crabapples this year. There >> was something odd about this year's apple crop. Tomatoes seemed >> to stay unusually small but we haven't figured out if it's the >> seed or the season; have to wait until next year to test that. >> >> Now, what if the item you want to acquire is a continuation of your >> life style? The only store won't allow it and destroys anything >> that has the taint of that life style? >> >> Now what do you do? >> >> /BAH > > > Destroy my lifestyle? That's almost funny. I live a very simple >life since I am 100% disabled. My "Lifestyle" is one of basic survival. I am in a similar situation. >I don't want fancy foods (That I can't eat anyway), I don't want >expensive booze, because I don't drink. My truck is 19 years old, My TV >is seven years old, and this computer was assembled from a half dozen >junkers. If the stores drop what I "NEED", they will be closing their >doors for good, anyway. I have lived most of my life with the attitude >that if I couldn't fix it, i didn't need it, If I didn't have cash, I >didn't buy it. I've NEVER had a credit card, and I don't want any. > > Do you have another house of cards waiting to fall? Now think supply of the basic things you do not make nor grow for youself. Count them. You'ld be surprised. I've spent the last 10 years trying to figure out how to eliminate as many dependencies as possible on outside help. /BAH |