From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> In article <gJednXxCJ6zYSrbYRVnyvg(a)pipex.net>,
> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>
> >It strikes me that pretty much all the middle eastern countries are
> >capitalist in nature.
>
> Then why do people have to pay government officials under the
> table to get something done quicker?

You think it doesn't happen here too ?

In India they have a formal term for it. It's called 'rush money'. It pays for
someone to expedite a process. I was just checking the UK Passport Agency. They
do the same. For an extra payment you can have your passport application
prioritised.


Graham

From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
> >> There aren't any other stores. There won't be any other
> >> stores. You are assuming that capitalism, a.k.a.
> >> competition, is allowed.
> >
> >Are you really this stupid ?
>
> Based on your definition of stupid: Fortunately, yes.

It appears that you're also suffering from a serious case of paranoia.

Graham

From: T Wake on

"Frithiof Andreas Jensen" <frithiof.jensen(a)die_spammer_die.ericsson.com>
wrote in message news:egibv3$99g$1(a)news.al.sw.ericsson.se...
>
> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message
> news:veKdnS9QEIjVIrbYRVnygA(a)pipex.net...
>>
>> We have non-Muslims advocating the death penalty.
>
> Yup, here mostly the white, skin-head alien types (who are too stupid to
> learn
> what happened to their predecessors as soon as their great master assumed
> power). Not a serious force, there is perhaps 600 of them.

Sadly not just the overtly facist propose the death penalty. Otherwise
"right thinking" people often suggest it. Some otherwise "enlightened"
nations currently use it.

>> If they become many through something other than a legitimate democratic
>> process, I can't see how it would work. Open, legitimate, democracies are
>> a
>> very resilient form of government.
>
> The process is:
>
> Marry someone from $HOME, Import new extended family, Repeat with imports.
>
> Denmark is A.F.A.I.K. the Only country in Europe that has shut down that
> traffic
> by removing the right to family reunions inside Denmark - Sweden has not,
> so one
> additional step is needed: Move to Sweden, Marry, Import, Etc.

At the end of the day, immigration will always exist while people in the
host country feel jobs are "beneath" them or too poorly paid to do. As the
west becomes more developed, people are less willing to take menial or low
paid jobs and more and more families need childminders and the like.

This employment void needs to be filled somehow. Without immigration, most
of western Europe would struggle to fill the jobs like cleaners, maids etc.
Without immigration the cost of basic goods would rise as the fruit pickers
etc., needed to be paid reasonable wages.

Despite some of the rightwing fear mongering on the issue, immigration is
not a black and white issue.


From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> One usually doesn't spell one's name in a dozen different ways.

My own full name has 12 possible spellings actually.

There are 3 ways to spell Graham alone.

Graeme
Grahame
Graham

From: Daniel Mandic on
Eeyore wrote:

> The UK made the world's first electronic computer.
>
> Graham


Hi Graham!


everyone knows England for outstanding computer stuff.




Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic