From: T Wake on 11 Oct 2006 14:56 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:452D389E.63DFB127(a)hotmail.com... > > > T Wake wrote: > >> In the UK we are toying with ID cards to fight terrorism. Pure, >> unadulterated >> nonsense. > > They would certainly be quite useless against terrorism. Yet that was the initial reason they were suggested. Fingerprinting / recording Biometrics of people will not prevent terrorism either.
From: T Wake on 11 Oct 2006 14:58 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:452D37F7.21D76309(a)hotmail.com... > > > T Wake wrote: > >> "John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote >> > On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:24:31 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> > >> >>BAH's condescension aside, I am willing to concede that knocking down >> >>the >> >>two biggest World Trade Center buildings probably was symbolic of their >> >>dislike of Western society. However, it is a *huge* leap of faith >> >>(i.e., >> >>assumption) to go from knocking down two buildings as an act of >> >>dislike, >> >>to >> >>an "intent to destroy all traces of Western Civilization." It's >> >>exactly >> >>these giant leaps that the US public must not let the Bush >> >>Administration >> >>and his party get away with, in the name of using fear to hold onto >> >>control >> >>of the country. I will once again remind you that the US government >> >>has >> >>changed our lifestyle post 9/11 *far* more than the terrorists have. >> >> >> >>Eric Lucas >> > >> > It's not that big a leap... >> > >> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061010/ts_nm/security_qaeda_libi_dc_2 >> >> It is still a leap of faith. Saying "'Allah will not be pleased until we >> reach the rooftop of the White House,' Abu Yahya al-Libi was shown >> telling >> fighters in the tape aired by the Dubai-based Al-Arabiya television" does >> not also mean "intent to destroy all traces of Western Civilisation." >> >> A best this is one AQ person extolling his supporters to fight harder. >> Even >> destroying the White House is a _far_ cry from attacking Western >> Civilisation. The Islamic extremists can kill people, torture people, >> destroy buildings and the like. They cant "destroy civilisation." > > Were it not for the modern media no-one would even be paying attention to > him. > Sad really, isn't it.
From: lucasea on 11 Oct 2006 14:59 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:452D389E.63DFB127(a)hotmail.com... > > > T Wake wrote: > >> In the UK we are toying with ID cards to fight terrorism. Pure, >> unadulterated >> nonsense. > > They would certainly be quite useless against terrorism. Well, if you cut them in the shape of a Chinese throwing star, then you could. But wait, what if one of the terrorists got ahold of it, he could..... Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhh! Run away! Run away! Eric Lucas
From: T Wake on 11 Oct 2006 15:01 "Homer J Simpson" <nobody(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message news:VXaXg.5623$P7.1332(a)edtnps90... > > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message > news:I82dnQmbtqOnpbDYRVnyrA(a)pipex.net... > >> The reality is that the attacks on the WTC were an attack on America, not >> Western Civilisation. You can ignore this as much as you want. You can >> also fantasise that fear of a "mess" is justification to make as many >> other messes as you want. but this still is not reality. > > Actually it may well be that they were an attack on the WTC. Fair one.
From: lucasea on 11 Oct 2006 15:04
"Homer J Simpson" <nobody(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message news:VXaXg.5623$P7.1332(a)edtnps90... > > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message > news:I82dnQmbtqOnpbDYRVnyrA(a)pipex.net... > >> The reality is that the attacks on the WTC were an attack on America, not >> Western Civilisation. You can ignore this as much as you want. You can >> also fantasise that fear of a "mess" is justification to make as many >> other messes as you want. but this still is not reality. > > Actually it may well be that they were an attack on the WTC. It was bin > Laden's second attempt at the same buildings out of millions he could have > chosen, and his family are in construction. Interesting thought. I hadn't thought made that connection. Still, I don't think it's a huge leap of faith to say he was trying to hurt the US economy. To leap from that to destroying the US, or more ludicrously, all of Western Civilization, is nothing short of paranoid delusion. Eric Lucas |