From: Eeyore on


John Larkin wrote:

> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >JoeBloe wrote:
>
> >> You stupid fucks wouldn't even be sitting in front of your computers
> >> right now were it not for us, and no, I am not talking about how we
> >> saved your asses, I am talking about technology, and the fact that you
> >> are lucky that we are your ally.
> >
> >The UK made the world's first electronic computer.
> >
> >Graham
>
> Which machine was that?

The Manchester 'Baby'. The world's first fully electronic stored program computer.

Graham

From: T Wake on

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 03:26:44 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
>>message
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>>> On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 03:46:04 +0100, Eeyore
>>> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>John Larkin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It's not that big a leap...
>>>>>
>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061010/ts_nm/security_qaeda_libi_dc_2
>>>>
>>>>Why are you so fixated on utter loonies ?
>>>
>>> But many of these
>>> loonies have influence and access to resources and can do a good deal
>>> of harm, so reasonable precautions are prudent,
>>
>>I absolutely agree.
>>
>>> and excess precautions
>>> are often a political consequence.
>>
>>Sadly, yes, but they are not a *necessary* consequence. They *are*,
>>however, a direct consequence of politicians using fear to manipulate
>>people
>>into re-electing them.
>
> I don't think that's the whole story. It's more like, "Four guys used
> box cutters to hijack planes. If somebody else did it with cigar
> slicers, wouldn't we look like fools. So let's ban everything sharp
> from planes."

Sadly it is worse than that, but that gives a good example. Sharp objects
are banned on flights, yet on a First Class flight I took a few weeks ago
(to the US of all places) you still had Glass to drink from and metal
cuttlery.

Obviously terrorists are too poor to fly anything but cattle class.

I am fairly advanced in my years, yet I can still strangle someone with my
shoe laces, should we ban shoe laces? A rolled up news paper can become a
weapon. Where do we draw the line?

That said, this is not the crux of the issue (as I see it anyway). The
problem is this over hyped response is a significant enough fear for a vocal
proportion of society to be outraged about it. That this vocal proportion
may not be representative is not relevant. The fact it is vocal enough to
change things is all that matters.

For example, the changes to immigration to countries like the US. What
additional safety does that provide? In the UK we are toying with ID cards
to fight terrorism. Pure, unadulterated nonsense.

Enough people have a fear of terrorism in their daily lives for the media
sources in both our countries to see it as something worth playing on. Maybe
they are sane, maybe not.


From: Eeyore on


John Fields wrote:

> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >John Larkin wrote:
> >
> >> It's not that big a leap...
> >>
> >> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061010/ts_nm/security_qaeda_libi_dc_2
> >
> >Why are you so fixated on utter loonies ?
>
> ---
> I don't know about Larkin, but I find your behavior fascinating.

In what respect ?

Graham

From: lucasea on

"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:36:19 +0100, Eeyore
> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>>I've never seen the reference to *lying* from non-Americans though.
>
> ---
> That's ridiculous. You've never claimed that Bush or Cheney or any
> American lied/lies?

That is certainly not specifc to non-Americans. Half of the population of
the US thinks that as well.


Eric Lucas


From: Eeyore on


Daniel Mandic wrote:

> John Fields wrote:
>
> > The context is clear from its use in the sentence, even though the
> > meaning of the sentence isn't really clear, the grammar needed to
> > successfully integrate: "pronouncation and meaning" into the
> > sentence being missing.
>
> Yeeeaah, I know you can good English...
>
> I am weak to moderate, in doing so.
>
> Allthough, I heard a litte bit 'School' in the last part, of yours...

Your Deutschlish is very good in fact although I prefer Franglais.


Graham