From: Eeyore on


T Wake wrote:

> In the UK we are toying with ID cards to fight terrorism. Pure, unadulterated
> nonsense.

They would certainly be quite useless against terrorism.

Graham

From: lucasea on

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:16:58 -0700, JoeBloe
> <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 03:00:25 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> Gave us:
>>
>>>No, Ockham's Razor suggests
>>
>> Totally retarded.
>
> "Ockham's Razor" is not a law of nature, it's an easy way to avoid
> thinking about things that might hurt your head.


It's served the advancement of science and technology well for hundreds of
years. If you remember, it says that "given equal consistency with the
facts, the simplest explanation is almost always the right one." It's a
good reason for avoiding going off into lala land looking for paranoid
fantasies, when other, simpler explanations work equally well. The problem
is, the politicians *want* you to go off into lala land and buy into their
paranoid fantasies. A fearful public is a compliant public, and it causes
people to cede rights to the politicians that they have no right to take.

Eric Lucas


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"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> T Wake wrote:
>
>> In the UK we are toying with ID cards to fight terrorism. Pure,
>> unadulterated
>> nonsense.
>
> They would certainly be quite useless against terrorism.

Usually such efforts are counterproductive. Anti forgery devices on currency
often make forgery easier since people rely on them.






From: T Wake on

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> John Fields wrote:
>
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >That 'alliance' - it wasn't an alliance in fact - didn't last long
>> >anyway.
>>
>> ---
>> Trying to split hairs again?
>>
>> It most certainly was an alliance, since they signed a trade agree
>> ment and a non-aggression pact:
>
> So what ?
>
>
>> 19/08/1939 Germany and USSR sign a trade treaty.
>>
>> 23/08/1939 Germany and the USSR sign a non-aggression pact in
>> Moscow.
>
> A non-aggression pact *is not* an alliance ! Don't you know what the words
> mean ?

If trade treaties and non-aggression pacts are an alliance, then there are
some interesting global alliances.


From: T Wake on

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> John Larkin wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 03:26:44 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> >We (their constituency) have the power to not let
>> >them do that, but running around like Chicken Little, uncritically
>> >parroting
>> >political soundbites like "thry hate us for our freedom" and "they want
>> >to
>> >destroy all of Western Civilization"
>>
>> Exaggeration, based on all the people I know. Sane people have no real
>> fear of terrorism in their daily lives. I guess some people live in
>> fear, or are drama queens who like to get worked up, but they are
>> fairly rare; we only have a few in this ng.
>
> Judging the number of ppl posting to this thread, the irrational fear
> seems to
> affect at least 1/4.

Possibly more. I have an irrational fear of losing the freedoms and
perceived rights I served in the Army to defend and my parents and
grandparents fought to defend. Oddly, my irrational fear has a different
source for the threat.......

:-)