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From: John Larkin on 16 Oct 2006 17:05 On 15 Oct 2006 20:37:59 GMT, "Daniel Mandic" <daniel_mandic(a)aon.at> wrote: >John Larkin wrote: > >> Don't blame the US for American culture, blame the world. >> >> John > > >You cannot make good use of the rich/fat country. I, in your case, would >anyone await who wants to hit me. And then, when the opponent came >(other form of inging), I would blast them into tiny pieces. See? Cowboy Culture in action. I'd lay off the Terminator movies for a while maybe. > >But everywhere where you defend something, some goods wander with you. >How wonderous :-) yippie, we have Uran, Oil and other Things, emptied >in our own country. > >You have the, 'just living' culture. Some of you cannot even use Fork >and Knife, indeed. A really good burger with fries doesn't need a fork and knife. Hmmm, Zuni Cafe is just two blocks away, and it's lunch time... John
From: Jonathan Kirwan on 16 Oct 2006 17:20 On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:39:24 +0100, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: ><snip> >> So I'm curious how some Europeans see this developing. > >Oddly from an outsiders perspective, lots of British people think of >Europeans and Europe as an external entity. This much I decidedly knew. :) Jon
From: Jonathan Kirwan on 16 Oct 2006 17:22 On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:56:48 +0200, "Frank Bemelman" <f.bemelmanq(a)xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote: >"T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> schreef in bericht >news:zoidnXWyvpSkTa7YnZ2dnUVZ8s-dnZ2d(a)pipex.net... >> >> Still, I have no doubt that one day it will happen. The die hard Europhobe >> in my wants it to be _after_ my lifetime but I am sensible enough to >> realise this is an emotional response, not a logical or reasonable one. >> Generally speaking though, trying to forge nations without a common >> background is fraught with disaster. > >All the different languages don't help much either. Lots of little >things that can cause friction. It will take some time, but the >situation in the world urges to speed up the process. The lack >of common background is present and strong, but there's plenty >of common problems and perhaps that is the magic glue we need. Interesting comments. Thanks. Jon
From: Eeyore on 16 Oct 2006 17:31 Jonathan Kirwan wrote: > On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:39:24 +0100, "T Wake" > <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > > >> So I'm curious how some Europeans see this developing. > > > >Oddly from an outsiders perspective, lots of British people think of > >Europeans and Europe as an external entity. > > This much I decidedly knew. :) I doubt it's so true with younger ppl here but we are still a large island of course. Graham
From: Jonathan Kirwan on 16 Oct 2006 17:39
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:28:58 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >John Larkin wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >John Larkin wrote: >> > >> >> Ah, your concern is not about peace. It's not about democracy, or >> >> human rights, or the health or nutrition or safety of the poorest >> >> people in the world. >> > >> >And the USA'a *IS* ????? >> > >> >Graham >> >> I think the theory is that a democratic world, with free people and >> free trade, will be better for everybody, us included. I've heard lots >> worse theories. >> >> What's your version of utopia? > >Ceertainly one where you don't go to war to change ppls minds. I think Kennedy had a finger on it. Reposting this again won't hurt in this context. It is as good a description as any. Pres. John Kennedy, June 10th, 1963, American University Commencement: "I have, therefore, chosen this time and place to discuss a topic on which ignorance too often abounds and the truth too rarely perceived. And that is the most important topic on earth: peace. What kind of peace do I mean and what kind of a peace do we seek? Not a Pax Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war. Not the peace of the grave or the security of the slave. I am talking about genuine peace, the kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living, and the kind that enables men and nations to grow, and to hope, and build a better life for their children -- not merely peace for Americans but peace for all men and women, not merely peace in our time but peace in all time." Jon |